I think Vern may be the biggest reach in the top-10 (which may be what McShay is driving at), but his upside makes it worth the gamble. You could also argue McFadden if he goes before five (just because of the shelf-life of RBs and the production you can draft later in the draft), but that's more based on position than McFadden himself.
Honestly I have no idea how he has been exalted to THE go-to guy for both CFB & NFL scouting, but I can at least stand watching him talk. Kiper's overdose of enunciation and inflection makes watching him nearly unbearable, imo.
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Oh yeah but Vernon OWNED HIS ASS for 2 years straight
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Keep seeing this more and more, and do not understand it at all. There was absolutely no domination by Vern vs Long last year. At best it was a wash, but I'd give a decided edge to Jake. Got dominated by Jake vs the run, but he made some plays vs the pass.
As for this year, he rarely faced Long. He did beat him for a sack of Mallett, and Heyward made some plays vs Long, but the 'domination' was vs Schilling.
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I believe in a segment on ESPN this week, McShay argued with Mel Kiper that Derrick Harvey was far and away a better pick than Big Vern. Then he proceeded to claim that Keith Rivers was also highly overrated, and I was forced to turn on the Home and Garden Network to get more accurate football coverage. 
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First part is a bit absurd imo... second part I can agree with a bit.