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Let me sum up.

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^Unless you have served your country you need not bash McCain on his military record unless you have served yourself...chime in if you actually know what the hell your talking about.
1. Do not bash his record unless you have served

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DON'T COMMENT ON SOMEONES SERVICE IF YOU HAVE NOT SERVED. At least the guys suited up!!! Protest the politicians that start wars not the soldiers getting shrapnel in the ass...don't question John McCains military service...I think he is an ass hat but he is a veteran and from that aspect I respect him.

Please feel free to bash these douchebags on any issue but please not their military service...especially a guy who won the Congressional Metal of Honor...Whether he deserved it on or not...he was a POW.
2. Don't comment on one's service unless you have served.

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Don't question his service man...Like I said hes a [censored]ing tool and I agree. I don't like the guy. Serving is a positive thing in politics or he wouldn't be using it on every commercial. What the [censored] has Obama done!!! Jack [censored]ing [censored]...Neither candidate is worth a damn but don't bash his service. Some people have the balls to serve while other question and bash the one that do...bash him as a politician not as a soldiers. He sucks as a politician enough to get alot of dirty laundry on him there.

If your gonna bash the service of men just go to arlington and start [censored]ing on graves.

Bash that asshat anyway you want but from a veterans perspective leave the military service alone. He did go through OCS and was a POW.
3. Don't bash his service. Bashing his service is like [censored]ing on a grave in Arlington. Which is apparently an okay thing to do as long as you served in the military?

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^ When I say don't question his service I don't mean his literal record or SRB (Service Record Booklet). The man went through OCS, fought during time of war, and won the Congressional Medal of Honor (CMH). The CMH is the highest award given to servicemembers. Whether he deserved it or not is moot. The man served his country and was a POW...THATS A FACT...that warrants a certain amount of respect because of his sacrifice. Now all this other [censored] of digging through his military record is all politics to discredit his service...hell the [censored] may be true. It doesn't matter because all servicemen have a run in or two while they are in the service...we are human. My point is dragging his service through the mud by persons that didn't serve is [censored]ing cowardice on their part. Most of these articles and expose are written by fatass pussies that would never sacrifice [censored] for their country...

Gator has the right to say or write whatever he wants. I don't want him to stop...but bashing McCain's service or questioning his patriotism is downright silly.
It's okay to question what he did while he was in the service, but don't question the fact that he did serve. And don't question his patriotism. (I haven't seen anybody do either of the latter.)

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Now gator is twisting my point...I am honorably discharged...I followed the rules...When I say don't critque a veterans service I mean honorable dischrge. You can bring up instances and this and that...What the soldiers did to those Iraqi prisoners was wrong and warrants criricism...they were obviously put in the brig/federal prison and deserve dishonorable discharge.
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Like I said carry a rifle before you open your trap. If someone is honorably discharged and you are criticizing them grow some balls and join,
Twisting your point? You never said anything about discharges prior to this post. You keep changing what it is that you don't want Gator to post.


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First, I said honorable discharge. Second,I said don't ridicule their service thats different than ridiculing what they did while they served (SRB). I know I'm not elloquent but please learn to read...its a lost art on these boards. I guess since you haven't served you will not understand what I mean. Obviously you don't know what a honorable discharge is or a SRB.

I guess it boils down to who's liberal and who conservative...screw it I'm an american [censored] the other two choices.
Nobody here has ridiculed or mocked John McCain for serving his country. I haven't seen anyone suggest that he is anything other than patriotic.

As you have pointed out, examining his service record is very different from those other actions. As far as I can tell, that's all anybody here is even interested in doing.
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