2004 Player ratings from Scout.com

[BB73]

I thought it would be handy to have a thread with everybody and their ratings from Insiders, (now Scout), as of NLOID in 2004.

http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=145&p=9&c=8&yr=2004

The number after the position is Scout's ranking of the player in that position nationally. The date at the end is when the player committed.

S 17 Devon Lyons
(Woodland Hills SHS)
Pittsburgh, PA 6-3/205/4.45 02/02/2004

LB NR Curtis Terry
(Glenville HS)
Cleveland, OH 6-3/205/4.59 02/01/2004

CB 62 Dennis Kennedy
(Stranahan HS)
Fort Lauderdale, FL 5-11/180 01/29/2004

WR 24 Albert Dukes
(Glades Central HS)
Belle Glade, FL 6-0.5/184/4.51 01/28/2004

DT 44 Nader Abdallah
(Archbishop Rummel HS)
Metairie, LA 6-5/300/4.90 01/27/2004

OL 7 Kyle Mitchum
(McDowell SHS)
Erie, PA 6-4/265/5.44 01/26/2004

S 41 Nick Patterson
(Hazelwood Central HS)
Florissant, MO 6-2/200/4.52 01/13/2004

DE 39 Vernon Gholston
(Cass Technical HS)
Detroit, MI 6-3/235/4.50 01/11/2004

DE 59 Alex Barrow
(Dublin Coffman HS)
Dublin, OH 6-4/245/4.80 01/11/2004

CB 1 Ted Ginn
(Glenville HS)
Cleveland, OH 6-1/165/4.45 01/03/2004

P NR A.J. Trapasso
(Pickerington HS Central)
Pickerington, OH 6-1/210 12/19/2003

TE 2 Rory Nicol
(Beaver Area SHS)
Beaver, PA 6-5/242/4.80 12/16/2003

LB NR Brandon Smith
(Euclid HS)
Euclid, OH 6-2/235/4.60 12/14/2003

RB NR Dionte Johnson
(Eastmoor HS)
Columbus, OH 5-11/235/4.60 10/06/2003

LB 11 Marcus Freeman
(Wayne HS)
Huber Heights, OH 6-2/232/4.47 09/24/2003

CB 14 Brandon Underwood
(Hamilton HS)
Hamilton, OH 6-1/179/4.41 07/23/2003

QB 55 Joe Bauserman
(Lincoln HS)
Tallahassee, FL 6-2/215/4.70 07/09/2003

RB 58 Erik Haw
(Independence HS)
Columbus, OH 5-11/210/4.30 07/03/2003

OL 94 Jon Skinner
(Mount Carmel Area JSHS)
Mount Carmel, PA 6-5/285/5.00 07/01/2003

OL 48 Steve Rehring
(Lakota West HS)
West Chester, OH 6-8/320/5.40 06/27/2003

S 7 Sirjo Welch
(Beechcroft HS)
Columbus, OH 6-0/185/4.40 05/19/2003

TE 4 Chad Hoobler
(Carrollton HS)
Carrollton, OH 6-4.5/220/4.71 05/16/2003

RB 31 Antonio Pittman
(Buchtel HS)
Akron, OH 5-11/198/4.30 04/02/2003

OL 17 Ben Person
(Xenia HS)
Xenia, OH 6-4/295/5.40 03/14/2003

CB 32 Shaun Lane
(Hubbard HS)
Hubbard, OH 5-10/170/4.50 02/27/2003

K NR Aaron Pettrey
(Raceland HS)
Raceland, KY 6-2/180 07/16/2004

[craigblitz]

It is neat looking back at some of these old threads around recruits and seeing how they turned out. My take on our class from that year.

S 17 Devon Lyons
I really thought he was a HUGE get for us. Hasn't seemed to find a position here.

LB NR Curtis Terry
Thouhgt he was a HUGE reach..I am wrong once again. The kid is getting better and better and has contributed a lot even early.

CB 62 Dennis Kennedy
I was really excited about this kid. Seemed to bleed Scarlet and Grey. I wasn't sure if he would play but liked him. Making some noise up Akron.

WR 24 Albert Dukes
I thought the comparisons of Holmes was dead on. Again, another reason why I am not coaching to make a living. Done nothing to date.
DT 44 Nader Abdallah
Didn't know a lot about him. Still don't...

OL 7 Kyle Mitchum
I was suprised by his 4 star rating aftr seeing him play. Thought he would be a starter for a year or two and it looks like that might be the case.

S 41 Nick Patterson
I didn't know a lot about him, but he was a quality kid (grades, reports, etc) and had great measurables. Making an impact this year

DE 39 Vernon Gholston
Vey suprised he was only a 3 star. The words RAW was thrown out with him, but his measurables were awsome. He is becoming a hell of a football player

DE 59 Alex Barrow
I was really suprised he got an offer after watching him play. I think he has moved down to DT

CB 1 Ted Ginn
I had an opportunity to talk to Bob Palko after the Army AA game and he guaranteed me that Ted Ginn would never see the field as a DB. I thought he was nuts. He also said he had the 2nd most potential to be star in college behind Dwayne Jarrett.

P NR A.J. Trapasso
Saw him in HS and really like the idea of having athletes as kickers, ala Andy Groom, etc.

TE 2 Rory Nicol
Extremely excited when we landed him and I still think his best has yet to come. With the weapons we have at WR it is hard to say if he has been a little bit of a bust or not.

LB NR Brandon Smith
I thought he would be a diamond in rough and be a 2 year starter at lb.

RB NR Dionte Johnson
The offer came out of nowhere IMO and I knew nothing other then his legacy name. BTW he seemed to fall off the face of the earth after a pretty good Freshman year.

LB 11 Marcus Freeman
Outside of Ted Ginn I thought he was the next big thing at OSU. Solid contributor

CB 14 Brandon Underwood
Another Underwood.. There was some dude on Bucknuts at the time raving about these two. Rev something I think. I drank the Kool-Aid. At least he is back on the team

QB 55 Joe Bauserman
Knew he would play baseball

RB 58 Erik Haw
Another recruit I was excited about, but I am always cautious about City League school players because sometimes stats are inflated with bad comp, or under because of bad surronding talent.

OL 94 Jon Skinner
Another steal IMO from PA. Expected a Red-Shirt and to be solid contributor for two years.

OL 48 Steve Rehring
I was REALLY worried about him. I thought Larry Kinard. The kid has worked hard and a solid addition.

S 7 Sirjo Welch
His Stock was on the rise during camps and I had big expectations. It looked as though he was going to be a great player here at OSU, but the promising future did not come to fruitation.

TE 4 Chad Hoobler
I thought LB all the way and at least I got that right. I really thought he was a Hawk, Carp type player. Too bad it did not work out here for him

RB 31 Antonio Pittman
He commited so early that he was lind of forgot about. Needless to say he turned out ok.
OL 17 Ben Person
Another OL that had a lot of pub, but I was never sold on. So far he has not made an impact at OSU

CB 32 Shaun Lane
Another player that I thought was a reach and might contribute only on special teams. So far he has sevral position changes and has not made an impact.

K NR Aaron Pettrey
Umm he was a kicker, I trsut JT in this area. He didn't need to know my expert opinion with him :-)

[TheStoicPaisano]

Dionte is a strict fullback in an offense that doesn't use it much. He's been in to block for Chris Wells a lot this year with White sliding down to block at TE. Alas, White's ability to block from there and the emergence of Jake Ballard has really cut into the playing time of Brandon Smith.

This class is interesting because (IMO) after just 2.5 years, you can delineate the stars (or long-term starters) from role players with not a lot of in-between.

Pettrey, Trapasso, Nicol, Ginn, Pittman, Rehring, Gholston, Freeman, and Terry are all vital cogs.

Bauserman, Kennedy, Haw, Hoobler, Welch are all gone.

Patterson, Underwood, and Lane have been passed by the stellar 2005 DB class, ditto for Lyons and Dukes at WR. Brandon Smith and Johnson fulfill their niche roles well. The three OL (Skinner, Rehring, Person) will battle for Downing's spot next year, but none can play C. Abdallah seems to be kinda flaky and has family and injury problems, Barrow seems to be a bit of a 'tweener who is at least getting on the field.

[crazybuckfan40]

S 17 Devon Lyons
I really thought he was a HUGE get for us. Hasn't seemed to find a position here.

I agree, I thought this was going to soften the blow of losing Davis, but he has fought injuries. Maybe he will make a contribution down the road, but right now he has struggled.

LB NR Curtis Terry
Thouhgt he was a HUGE reach..I am wrong once again. The kid is getting better and better and has contributed a lot even early.

After reading the story about where he came from and how he said there was nothing that was going to stop him from being great, I loved this pickup and it has been a great pickup. Looks like all the services missed on this one.

CB 62 Dennis Kennedy
I was really excited about this kid. Seemed to bleed Scarlet and Grey. I wasn't sure if he would play but liked him. Making some noise up Akron.

I agree, and it was such a sad story about his dad and then not making it passed admissions.

WR 24 Albert Dukes
I thought the comparisons of Holmes was dead on. Again, another reason why I am not coaching to make a living. Done nothing to date.

I also really like him out of high school and still think that he has a ton of talent, but the light bulb hasnt went on yet. I think the little problem he had has set him back, but I think he will contribute before leaving.

DT 44 Nader Abdallah
Didn't know a lot about him. Still don't...

He played in the AA bowl game and I was happy to get him. I still think that he can contribute, but I think he has to get his motor going all the time and continue to work in the weightroom. I think he will have one of those Tress type senior seasons when he is a senior.

OL 7 Kyle Mitchum
I was suprised by his 4 star rating aftr seeing him play. Thought he would be a starter for a year or two and it looks like that might be the case.

He has been behind some great talent at oline and it usually take olineman a little longer to contribute. I would give him an incomplete, but when he has been in there he has played pretty well.

S 41 Nick Patterson
I didn't know a lot about him, but he was a quality kid (grades, reports, etc) and had great measurables. Making an impact this year

Yeah when we were recruitng him he was looked as a smart kid, but some people had questioned this offer. I had looked for a big year this year, but it looks like his confidence has been shot. It looks like he might be behind the 8 ball in terms of seeing the field for much more than special teams with Russell and JamO both being younger and being ahead of him on the depth chart.

DE 39 Vernon Gholston
Vey suprised he was only a 3 star. The words RAW was thrown out with him, but his measurables were awsome. He is becoming a hell of a football player

STEAL is the only way to put it. This kid had tons of talent, but it was just a matter of a little coaching and he recieved that here. I bet the scUM fans dont have that same who cares attitude about letting this one slip away as they did in 04.

DE 59 Alex Barrow
I was really suprised he got an offer after watching him play. I think he has moved down to DT

Another one of Tress's under the radar type guys. I loved the pickup then and he has done nothing to change my mind. He will be a force at DT when he starts playing full time.

CB 1 Ted Ginn
I had an opportunity to talk to Bob Palko after the Army AA game and he guaranteed me that Ted Ginn would never see the field as a DB. I thought he was nuts. He also said he had the 2nd most potential to be star in college behind Dwayne Jarrett.

Ginn has lived up to his ranking and then some even tho it hasnt been as CB.

P NR A.J. Trapasso
Saw him in HS and really like the idea of having athletes as kickers, ala Andy Groom, etc.

He could go down as one of the best punters ever to play here. He is just a sophmore.

TE 2 Rory Nicol
Extremely excited when we landed him and I still think his best has yet to come. With the weapons we have at WR it is hard to say if he has been a little bit of a bust or not.

I remember this pickup kinda coming out of left field. I loved it and he has really stepped up this year and been a great blocker and has made some plays in the passing game.

LB NR Brandon Smith
I thought he would be a diamond in rough and be a 2 year starter at lb.

Another guy that was under the radar. I thought he would make an impact at lb, but he was forced to move to TE last year when the need arised. I think overall he was a solid pickup.

RB NR Dionte Johnson
The offer came out of nowhere IMO and I knew nothing other then his legacy name. BTW he seemed to fall off the face of the earth after a pretty good Freshman year.

Another legacy guy that has been a very solid fullback for us. A nice 2 star pickup for us.

LB 11 Marcus Freeman
Outside of Ted Ginn I thought he was the next big thing at OSU. Solid contributor

I think the knee injury hurt his confidence a little, but I think now he is starting to play better and will make a big impact before leaving.

CB 14 Brandon Underwood
Another Underwood.. There was some dude on Bucknuts at the time raving about these two. Rev something I think. I drank the Kool-Aid. At least he is back on the team

There is still hope that he makes an impact, but we will still have see.

QB 55 Joe Bauserman
Knew he would play baseball

Agreed

RB 58 Erik Haw
Another recruit I was excited about, but I am always cautious about City League school players because sometimes stats are inflated with bad comp, or under because of bad surronding talent.

Another one of Tress's famous camp offers. He has been the only that hasnt panned out, but I think he was in the doghouse more than he wasnt.

OL 94 Jon Skinner
Another steal IMO from PA. Expected a Red-Shirt and to be solid contributor for two years.

I think alot of people questioned this pickup, but he has shown that he was a great pickup. He will for sure make an impact.

OL 48 Steve Rehring
I was REALLY worried about him. I thought Larry Kinard. The kid has worked hard and a solid addition.

I thought during recruiting he is the most likely to make an early impact with his size and sure enough he did.

S 7 Sirjo Welch
His Stock was on the rise during camps and I had big expectations. It looked as though he was going to be a great player here at OSU, but the promising future did not come to fruitation.

Kinda upset about this one. I thought he would be a great safety here and especially after all the ST tackles he had made when people thought he was Flydell. Too bad he couldnt adjust to classes and stay out of trouble.

TE 4 Chad Hoobler
I thought LB all the way and at least I got that right. I really thought he was a Hawk, Carp type player. Too bad it did not work out here for him

After the Big 33 game everyone loved his chance to be a great lb here. Needless to say I don't think he ever adjusted to college life and has since trasnferred.

RB 31 Antonio Pittman
He commited so early that he was lind of forgot about. Needless to say he turned out ok.

Loved this pickup and couldnt believe he was rated a 3 star. He was injured his senior year which hurt his stats and recognition, but he has turned into a 5 star type player here. Huge miss by the services.

OL 17 Ben Person
Another OL that had a lot of pub, but I was never sold on. So far he has not made an impact at OSU

I think he will be another lineman that makes an impact in his later years.

CB 32 Shaun Lane
Another player that I thought was a reach and might contribute only on special teams. So far he has sevral position changes and has not made an impact.

I still think there is a chance that he might transfer after the year. I thought he was a stretch being a legacy.

K NR Aaron Pettrey
Umm he was a kicker, I trsut JT in this area. He didn't need to know my expert opinion with him :-)

I loved this pickup after hearing about him kicking a 60+ yarder and he could be on Nugent's level b4 he leaves. He is only a frosh.

[Kueller]

Pittman was a 4* at rivals, not a total miss by the services.