(2004) Game Eight: Penn State - 10/30/04 (W, 5-3/2-3)

[Jaxbuck]

Originally Posted by MililaniBuckeye

Wrong. Watch the play again. Both the defender and Ginn had their hands on the ball.

Just give up it up already...our offense is different than before, whether you quit being too stubborn to believe it or not. All your posts won't change what is fact.

I am not quite sure where the need to take the minutia of what I say and attempt to twist it around comes from but it is quite annoying. The only point I ever attempted to make was done quite clearly 3-4 pages ago; PSU's offense is just as bad as OSU's but PSU has the better D and thats exactly how it looked going into Iowa.

All this New offense stuff sprang up mid thread and I am still shocked that people think changing two players and looking like a legit D1 offense vs IU means we have a whole new offense and our troubles are long gone.

Thats was one of the 10-15 worst defenses in all college football fellas!! They have made Lydell Ross look good 3 years in a row, IT MEANS NOTHING
untill they can do it vs a good team. You think I'm being stubborn because I am concerned Smith had a 50% completion rate against a team that bad?

Also, if you want to go watch the film again I hope you notice all the plays that an IU defender had our back dead to rights in the backfield and missed the tackle.

As far as giving it up and posts not changing facts, well thats just funny given the source.

[bucknut11]

from one of the penn. papers...

Also expect a shot or two downfield to a kid central Pennsylvania fans got a look at in the Big 33 Classic last summer. Ted Ginn Jr., given reps at cornerback for 80 percent of the season to date, was shifted permanently to wideout last week.
Ginn is an absolute missile, a talent of Reggie Bush caliber whom the Buckeyes will try to get one-on-one against Anwar Phillips with similarly gifted and more proven OSU flanker Santonio Holmes probably being occupied more than not by Alan Zemaitis.

Certainly not completely accurate, but let's hope they do go deep.

[BuckeyeNation27]

dont expect any Penn State fan writing for some 2bit paper is going to know anything about college football. my local paper a couple weeks ago had the headline "Look for Mills to be great against Wisconsin." yes, because he has been great several times so far this year

[kn1f3party]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeNation27

dont expect any Penn State fan writing for some 2bit paper is going to know anything about college football. my local paper a couple weeks ago had the headline "Look for Mills to be great against Wisconsin." yes, because he has been great several times so far this year

No one knows. If Wisconsin hadn't nearly killed him he might have been great.

[BuckeyeNation27]

Originally Posted by kn1f3party

No one knows. If Wisconsin hadn't nearly killed him he might have been great.

or more likely he wouldve been 10-25, with 5 of those completions going to the other team.

[Carmen Ohio]

[quote=Jaxbuck]I am not quite sure where the need to take the minutia of what I say and attempt to twist it around comes from but it is quite annoying. The only point I ever attempted to make was done quite clearly 3-4 pages ago; PSU's offense is just as bad as OSU's but PSU has the better D and thats exactly how it looked going into Iowa.
/QUOTE]

Don't get annoyed.... just understand where the guys are coming from. You can't say OSU's offense is as bad as PSU's going into this game because we're making big changes that may have paid off. You talk about Penn State having a better passing game, but it's likely Zach Mills won't even be playing. The focus on statistics ignores that and what we all saw with our own two eyes... that whether it be by design or necessity, JT has had to make major changes in the offense (changing quarterbacks, tailbacks and receiving and offensive line rotations are major changes). We all know it was just IU but what none of us knows is whether it's the beginning of finally having a productive offense. If you just want to look at cold stats and say we're as bad as PSU then of course your argument is supported, but if you want to look at what the team tried to do and accomplshed, albeit against IU, the time to say we're just as bad as Penn State on offense is AFTER the game if that still holds true. Remember, this is a team that lost to Northwestern for the first time in a couple of decades. Even if it was "just" Indiana your comment that what we did to the same thing to them last year and the championship year is actually a huge compliment... it puts us on par with those teams.

[brutus2002]

#1 Nobody has held Indiana to 7 points except OSU

#2 I believe 23 points is the lrgest margin of victory over them.

[StoRMinBrutus]

Important memo to self:
Things not to do on a dihard (puns intended) Pro-Buckeye fan site... hmmm let me think ... Post numbers that don't give the whole story or that may give a somewhat negative "sceptical" light on the beloved Buckeyes !!!

Results:
105,000 angry VBuckeye vfans stomping on the vblock "O" !! oh wait !! .. No its an vAccountant lying on the ground with cleat marks all over; looking like Beetle Bailey after Sarge got ahold of him.


p.s. Jax, ya can't be annoyed if ya laughing. We are all Buckeye fans!! Even if you disagree, just cheer em on and enjoy the debate. Hope your totally wrong about our "new" offense though ... Just making light of a discussion taken entirely too seriously. No malice intended. GO BUCKEYES !!!