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10-21-2004, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by tsteele316
The problem is the schools that sign those large numbers do so because they have many academic casualties. That is why they sign large classes year after year. This year will be no exception.
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Which is one of the many reasons why ranking recruiting classes should be taken with a whole shakerful of salt. Academic casualties, various other types of misbehavior (Irizarry, Marco Cooper), injuries (D'Andrea), and some recruits just flat out aren't as good as they're rated.
Remember, if recruiting rankings correlated really well with on-field performance, Mack Brown would have a ton of national titles by now.  |
10-21-2004, 02:58 PM
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frankly, I will be surprised if we don't finish FIRST
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* "If you visit Ohio State, there's nothing to dislike about the place," said Gateway coach Terry Smith. "They get 100,000 fans. They played for the national championship three of the last five years. They put kids in the pros."
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10-21-2004, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by tsteele316
The problem is the schools that sign those large numbers do so because they have many academic casualties. That is why they sign large classes year after year. This year will be no exception.
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That's true, but since you're not supposed to be able to sign more than 25 players in a year, schools that get 27 or 28 commits should not get credit for the overages in the rankings, at least not the finalized ones. The final rankings of a recruiting year should be based on only those commits who sign an LOI.
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10-21-2004, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by NJ-Buckeye
frankly, I will be surprised if we don't finish FIRST
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wont happen. we just wont sign as many kids. im sure if you average out the star# per recruit we will be top 2, but getting more recruits is always an advantage. quanity over quality. |
10-21-2004, 04:21 PM
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The thing is, MB, that even ranking after NLOI Day is ineffective. Schools can oversign as many as they want. So a lot of these schools will, in fact, have 28 or 29 guys sign a LOI. Really, you would have to wait until the fall to see who actually makes it on campus (passed by the Clearinghouse and admitted to the school). And as you point out, the only meaningful evaluation would have to wait until the class had been at the school for 3 years or so. But w fans are way too inpatient for that.
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10-21-2004, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MililaniBuckeye
That's true, but since you're not supposed to be able to sign more than 25 players in a year, schools that get 27 or 28 commits should not get credit for the overages in the rankings, at least not the finalized ones. The final rankings of a recruiting year should be based on only those commits who sign an LOI.
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i know the rule is you are allowed to sign 25. the big ten allows to oversign by 3, provided you dont exceed the 85 cap. i think each conference is different with respect to oversigning. i know cal signed like 31 kids one year. but a lot of southern schools sign kids they know wont qualify, just so when the kid gets through prep school in a year they will come back to them.
for example, UF had 4 kids fail to qualify for this past class, the recruitniks said it would drop their ranking significantly if that was factored in, but its not.
overall star average and how many kids qualify are really the important factors in a class. |
10-22-2004, 07:14 AM
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Lemming and Allen Wallace's take on who will finish in the top 5
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Recruiting: National signing day isn't until Feb. 2, but analysts Lemming and Allen Wallace of www.scout.com and SuperPrep magazine offer their top five schools in order.
Wallace: Ohio State, Virginia, Michigan, Tennessee and Texas. "Many of the preseason top 100 players have not committed."
Offensive lineman Alex Boone (6-8, 305) of St. Edward (Lakewood, Ohio) and defensive back Jamario O'Neal of Glenville (Cleveland) say they'll sign with Ohio State.
Lemming: Virginia, Texas, Nebraska, Michigan and Maryland. "I see schools like Southern California, Miami, Florida State and Notre Dame all sliding in late. Several kids who committed early have already switched, so the battles are far from over."
Virginia's key recruit is 6-6, 325-pound Eugene Monroe, a Super 25 lineman at Plainfield (N.J.).
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10-22-2004, 09:16 AM
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I hate to break it to lemmon-head and wally-gator, but virginia will be lucky to finish in the top 10 of either rivals or insiders. they only have a few spots left now. going by rivals ranking system, if they would get 4 more 4* guys they still would be more than lucky to finish in the top 10.
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