Game Two: Texas 25, Ohio State 22 (final)

[Chalumpa]

Let me lay down my "proof" that one player plays like another...






Wait, there's no way to do that. I am stating an opinion, and the best thing I can do to back it up is say he's a shifty back, VERY quick, and is extremely hard for opposing players to get their hands on. If you want proof from me, you're asking for something that can't be done because there are no physical, statistical or any other type of solid parameters to "prove" one player is like another. All players are slightly different but you can definitely group them together into types. Reggie Bush is a Barry Sanders type player... so is Ramonce Taylor. They are not Ricky Williams/Cedric Benson/Terrell Davis/Eddie George type players. Put Reggie Bush on whatever type of pedastal you like but there are players who play like him and others that he himself plays like.

[BuckeyeNation27]

well it's my opinion that nobody plays like bush. and i never asked for proof, so that was a wasted paragraph.

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Originally Posted by BuckeyeNation27

Give me a [censored]ing break. There is nobody that plays the game like Reggie Bush. Just like there is nobody that plays the game like Ginn. I've never seen anybody play like that. Now this guy says there's some nobody on his team who plays like Reggie Bush, and his proof is that he saw playing time as a freshman. Wow, I'm so impressed.

Don't scold me.

I seriously doubt that you have seen all D-1 teams play, much less their players. Just because you have not seen anyone play like that does not mean that there is not anyone out there that does play like Reggie Bush. Please keep your narrow minded subjective remarks to yourself.

Now as far as the comparison between Reggie Bush and Ramonce Taylor. Chalumpa simply said that Ramonce Taylor is a Reggie Bush type of player. He is not stating that Ramonce Taylor is the next coming of Reggie Bush. Ramonce Taylor will more than likely play running back but will line up as a wide receiver coming out of the backfield. Due to his athleticism and speed, he will make most of his damage from yards-after-catch. And no, his cutbacks and jukes will be no where near as flashy as Reggie Bush. Reggie Bush is a type of player who has the agility and speed of a very flashy RB gifted with the hands of a WR. Ramonce Taylor is much like that. No he isn't as flashy, isn't as big, and probably isn't as fast as Reggie Bush; but none the less, a comparison can be made between the two. Now if you don't understand what a comparison is...then for you ignorance is bliss and no one can say or do anything that might change your narrow mind.

[Tlangs]

Originally Posted by default

I No he isn't as flashy, isn't as big, and probably isn't as fast as Reggie Bush; but none the less, a comparison can be made between the two. Now if you don't understand what a comparison is...then for you ignorance is bliss and no one can say or do anything that might change your narrow mind.

I guess your "comparison" is that they don't compare with eachother since he isn't as flashy, big, or fast (and hasn't won 2 national titles or seen the field for any extended period of time)

[High Lonesome]

piont of clarification: he is flashy(although not as much so as bush), he is not as big as bush but is still legit rb size, and is the fastest player on the texas team. Mac is planing on using (provided selvin stays healthy)him in the same way that chow utilized bush. He has gone as far as talking to norm about this. The comparisons really end there but they are legit comparisons never the less

[Oneshot]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeNation27

Give me a [censored]ing break. There is nobody that plays the game like Reggie Bush. Just like there is nobody that plays the game like Ginn. I've never seen anybody play like that. Now this guy says there's some nobody on his team who plays like Reggie Bush, and his proof is that he saw playing time as a freshman. Wow, I'm so impressed.

Don't scold me.

Well come on, bud... You just called someone a sarcastic dick for making a point that was relevant to the discussion.

BP still a mature, respectful board, right?

[sandgk]

2 months and 3 days away --

and we have a little temper fraying in evidence.

Yep -- we are all missing football season already.

Oh - and as I was Out of Town that day -- congrats to Les Horns Longe on the Collegiate World Series Run. Now that is what a Dynasty should be all about.

Still desperately seeking tickets in all quarters for this game.

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Originally Posted by Chalumpa

Ramonce Taylor as a freshman:
10.1 yards per carry with a long of 74
21.3 yards per catch with a long of 44

I don't think you're (Buckeyes...not Chalumpa) being quite fair to Ramonce. He doesn't play like Reggie Bush IMO. He is a lightning-in-a-bottle type player that we are going to use like Reggie Bush. Last year, he came in as the 3rd string RB, and we didn't change the offense to fit him. He still showed he could make the big plays.

You should see a bunch of plays with Selvin in the backfield and Ramonce either in the slot or backfield.

He was pretty successful when Benson was in the backfield. We'd fake to Benson making the defense bite, and Ramonce would take it the other way. Against Okie St. this resulted in a 44 yard screen and a 43 yard rushing TD. (DivX required)

As the lone back he ran mostly to the outside, and looked pretty good as long as he beat the DE. He didn't go up the middle much, but he apparently gets through the holes fast so you don't get long to seal them up.

I wasn't that high on Ramonce until these past couple of posts made me check out some of his stuff. Now I'm pretty excited.

[jwinslow]

Looking ahead to this game is tough b/c I doubt any of us respect OkState very much... heck they made Lydell Ross (probably OSU's worst starting RB in a while... he was better until he bulked up) look incredible.

Ramonce is probably very dangerous, however you don't have benson to make the defense bite. Maybe Selvin will step up and be very good, but even still I doubt he wil be the top-5 draft pick that Benson was. I always was amazed how well Benson handled 8 men in the box.

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On a separate note, how big are Texas' WR's? Everett is about the biggest corner you'll face, and Youboty isn't too small. I've heard about Shipley but think he'll have trouble getting off of the line... as apparently he struggled against Huff in this regard.

Everett:


Keep in mind that in 3 WR sets we often stick with a 4-3 b/c Carpenter/Hawk are fast enough to stick with most WRs... especially in a zone coverage scheme.

[BuckeyeNation27]

Originally Posted by default

I seriously doubt that you have seen all D-1 teams play, much less their players. Just because you have not seen anyone play like that does not mean that there is not anyone out there that does play like Reggie Bush. Please keep your narrow minded subjective remarks to yourself.

Now as far as the comparison between Reggie Bush and Ramonce Taylor. Chalumpa simply said that Ramonce Taylor is a Reggie Bush type of player. He is not stating that Ramonce Taylor is the next coming of Reggie Bush. Ramonce Taylor will more than likely play running back but will line up as a wide receiver coming out of the backfield. Due to his athleticism and speed, he will make most of his damage from yards-after-catch. And no, his cutbacks and jukes will be no where near as flashy as Reggie Bush. Reggie Bush is a type of player who has the agility and speed of a very flashy RB gifted with the hands of a WR. Ramonce Taylor is much like that. No he isn't as flashy, isn't as big, and probably isn't as fast as Reggie Bush; but none the less, a comparison can be made between the two. Now if you don't understand what a comparison is...then for you ignorance is bliss and no one can say or do anything that might change your narrow mind.

Gee captain obvious....thanks for the clarification that he didn't say Taylor = Bush. I'm so narrow minded I couldn't comprehend that.

When people compare players from their favorite team to players who are the greatest in the sport....it makes me laugh. When Reggie Bush lines up in the backfield, he's one great RB. When Reggie Bush lines up in the slot, he's one great WR. When Reggie Bush returns kicks and punts, he's one great kick/punt returner.

Forgive me if I doubt Ramonce Taylor from looking like he was born into each position the way Reggie Bush looks doing it.

Originally Posted by Oneshot

Well come on, bud... You just called someone a sarcastic dick for making a point that was relevant to the discussion.

BP still a mature, respectful board, right?

So he can be a sarcastic dick, but I can't call him one. Gotcha.

[Taosman]

Prices on END ZONE tickets are $345! Forty yard line, $1725!

[gregorylee]

geeze 27 you're a little teste lately

[BuckeyeNation27]

Originally Posted by Taosman

Prices on END ZONE tickets are $345! Forty yard line, $1725!

each?!

[Taosman]

That is correct! Starting at $345 for end zone seats! And it's only July!

[BuckeyeNation27]

good thing i got mine at 237 each. I'm such a bargain hunter.