Game Two: #1 Ohio State 24, #2 Texas 7 (9/9/06)

[crazybuckfan40]

Just a little food for thought. A couple years ago we won the national championship.

Return most of our guys besides that one piece that was basically our whole offense. Then we thought we had guys that were good that could fill in. We had a line full of alll big ten performers and guys starting in the NFL now.

Look how much they struggled b/c they lost one guy and tried to plug young guys in where he was no longer there.

We struggled a whole lot.

I know you guys want to believe you guys are goign to be unstoppable on O and yadda yadda yadda, but hardly ever do you see a freshmen or RS freshmen step in and just become amazing. Even with amazing talent around them. Look no farther than Miami when they plugged all world Kyle Wright in and when FSU plugged all world Drew Weatherford in.

You have a good QB in college football and that takes you a long way. If you don't well then you are going to have problems.

[xrayrandy]

No way in hades does a completely different secondar devoid of the stars that left hold Smith to such absurdly low production.

I don't know what stars has to do with it, but I do know the starting four will be better than last year. Here is a comparison going into 2005 Vs 2006.

Tarell Brown 2005 >> Tarell Brown 2004
Michael Griffin 2005 > Michael Huff 2004 compare them if you don't beleive me.
Aaron Ross 2005 > Cedric Griffin 2004 Ross is >> in coverage and a little worse in run support.
Marcus Griffin 2005 < Michael Griffin 2004 Marcus is on a similar path to his twin brother but a year and a step behind.

On balance the starting four will be better than last year when Texas was one of the best passing defenses in the country 20 efficiency points better than tOSU. Believe me, they can hold a QB 25 points under their efficiency rating, 12% under the completetion percentage and 20% under their yards per completion. Oh and the rush defense will hold teams 60 yards below their rushing average like last year.

[jwinslow]

Originally Posted by xrayrandy

I don't know what stars has to do with it, but I do know the starting four will be better than last year. Here is a comparison going into 2005 Vs 2006.

I guess you have another michael huff on the way... in this draft, I would call Bush, Ferguson, Hawk & Huff the closest to sure things you can find. Players like those guys do not come along every year imo. As OSU fans, we're well aware that there is tons of talent waiting in the wings, we love a number of the new defenders... but we're not gonna claim that they will be better from day one (which is basically when OSU comes to visit).

On balance the starting four will be better than last year when Texas was one of the best passing defenses in the country 20 efficiency points better than tOSU. Believe me, they can hold a QB 25 points under their efficiency rating, 12% under the completetion percentage and 20% under their yards per completion. Oh and the rush defense will hold teams 60 yards below their rushing average like last year.

I'm sure they will, I would gladly trade our conference schedules. Your defense had a chance to prove how incredible it was against USC and it did not do so. Your defensive stars made just enough plays to assist Superman on his victory. Make no mistake, I think Texas had and will continue to have a very strong D... but you present statistics as tho they prove nobody will have a chance against UT's D, despite games like aTm and USC.

[bukIpower]

You thought our defense was fast last year and got to the ball??? The defensive line is no doubt faster and stronger than last years. We have Pitcock returning as well as a converted end to Defensive Tackle (Patterson). Plus guess what? Now our defensive ends can now rush the QB unlike we were able to do last year. I don't think you guys realize how much losing Vince Young changes how we approach this game. Instead of our DB's laying back and waiting to see if VY is going to run now our DB's can run up and smack your QB in the mouth. We can blitz more, we can take more chances, and we don't have to have our D-line in contain mode like we had to do last year (which was very effective). Our D-line plays best when we attack and get after the offense and we were simply not given that luxury last year in Columbus against Texas. You can throw out that you have better lineman/Running backs/Recievers because you can argue that point as well as we can, but the fact of the matter is we have more go to guys than you do.

With Troy Smith he provides leadership, his feet, his arm, his accuracy. The thing that you guys won't have that we do is that if this game is close in the 4th quarter who will we look to?? TROY SMITH. Who does Texas go to?

Antonio Pittman- Our workhorse 1,300+ yard back. Texas has fantastic Talent but they don't have that GO TO guy. They have a stable or running backs which will come in handy against teams that aren't solid against the run.

Ginn/Gonzo/Hall-We got most of our playmakers at Reciever back (minus Holmes) and once again yes texas has tremendous talent. Again however who's throwing these guys the ball??? TROY SMITH... who's throwing your passes to your recievers? You don't know still...

We have talent texas has talent but we return our leader to guide our team and you don't..... Considering this WILL be a close game I like our odds.. I think its too close to call because it can go either way but again I like our chances seeing as we have the best leadership.

[xrayrandy]

I don't think it will be a closee game at all if turnovers are even. If we take last year, Texas won by three, was -2 in turnovers worth 12 and being at home is a six point swing. If last years teams played in Austin, Texas should have been favored by 21. Texas returns more experienced and more productive players than tOSU, but, the QB situation creates a lot of uncertainty. I'll say Texas by 24, 38-14.

I do have a precedent on Smith, since the only comparable defense he started against last year was Penn State where he went 13-25-1, 0 TDs and 15 yards rushing. Also, after completing 50% in the jersey scrimmage, I am interested to see if he does better in the spring game.

[scarletngrey11]

Originally Posted by xrayrandy

I don't think it will be a closee game at all if turnovers are even. If we take last year, Texas won by three, was -2 in turnovers worth 12 and being at home is a six point swing. If last years teams played in Austin, Texas should have been favored by 21. Texas returns more experienced and more productive players than tOSU, but, the QB situation creates a lot of uncertainty. I'll say Texas by 24, 38-14.

I do have a precedent on Smith, since the only comparable defense he started against last year was Penn State where he went 13-25-1, 0 TDs and 15 yards rushing. Also, after completing 50% in the jersey scrimmage, I am interested to see if he does better in the spring game.

Your predicting a 24 point win when neither of your quarterbacks have ever thrown a single collegiant pass?



EDIT: Youve also admitted that you dont know much about the players that are going to be starters this year, so how the hell do you predict a 24 point win when you have no clue who OSU is even going to have on defense?

Stats arent everything. The games arent played on paper and stats can be misleading.

[Buckeye513]

Originally Posted by scarletngrey77

Stats arent everything. The games arent played on paper and stats can be misleading.

Blasphemy!