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Originally Posted by NJ-Buckeye
Serious? NJ has a hoops tourney called the ABCD... 5 years ago, ESPN was there and asked Rick Pitino who the best player was and what college would he be attending.. Pitino said "the best player on earth that is not in the NBA is here and only 16 years old" .. NCAA rules prohibited him from saying the name of anyone that was not a senior... you might have heard of the kid.. some call him LeBron
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And I'd be willing to bet many coaches would have said the same thing about the guy a year or two older than LeBron who was ranked #1 in his class and considering a "can't miss." Of course, he completely fell off the radar and no one knows what he's up to these days. I want to say his last name was Cook, but I can't remember exactly...I just remember ESPN doing a special on him a couple years after the fact.
Certainly, we can see that players appear to have the potential to accomplish great things, but obviously this doesn't always pan out. Kwame Brown and others are drafted at the top of the NBA draft each year because they have the potential to be all stars. Yet players fail to live up to their potential every year. To say that Ben Martin has the potential to play in the NFL is entirely reasonable, to say he will be in the NFL in 3 years (and to go so far as to say an injury is the only thing that will stop him from becoming a pro bowler, as one poster said) is foolish.
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02-26-2006, 01:39 AM
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I want to say his last name was Cook, but I can't remember exactly...I just remember ESPN doing a special on him a couple years after the fact.
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02-26-2006, 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by X Buckeyes07 X
To say that Ben Martin has the potential to play in the NFL is entirely reasonable, to say he will be in the NFL in 3 years (and to go so far as to say an injury is the only thing that will stop him from becoming a pro bowler, as one poster said) is foolish.
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It may be foolish, but I bet I'm right! 
When it comes to busts, more often than not, it's guys who:
A: Get injured
B: Flunk Out/Get in trouble
C: Were just overrated HS players
Is it a sure thing that he plays in the NFL ( or plays in the pro-bowl, as I "foolishly" predicted)? Of course not. But if he doesn't play in NFL after leaving OSU, injuries will have been the culprit. He is just one of those guys who has "it", as they say. |
02-26-2006, 01:59 AM
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Well there is no debating how good he is. He is an absolute stud and to pair him up with Rob Rose, Wilson, Worthington, Williams, Dublin or whoever would make for one heckuva a DE tandem.
From his film I agree with Grad that he is a 3 and done type talent, don't know a whole lot about him, so I dont' know if he would bolt after just 3 years.
It has been mentioned about depth at times in this thread, but this is a type of kid that doesnt have to worry about depth wherever he goes b/c he is that kid. Not a knock on the kids we hae recruited, but Ben is an absolute stud.
He is a guy that will have Teddy Ginn, OPace, Big Kat, MoC type impact in his freshmen year.
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02-27-2006, 10:48 AM
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Why so serious?
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just that he has NFL potential that is obvious right now.
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If anyone disagrees with Grad's statement, well you haven't seen Martin's film or have no clue how to evaluate film in general. There is absolutely no doubt that barring injury, Martin has the potential to play in the NFL. His size and speed combination is god given.
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02-27-2006, 11:03 AM
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WOW!! I'm certainly not bashing Martin's ability as I've seen firsthand on numerous occasions the type of player he is, but talk about declaring a kid the next big thing before he even steps foot on campus (regardless of whether it's in Columbus or at another school). I'm sure I'll get dinged for this and most likely this post will be deleted, but don't you think it's a little irresponsible to talk about a high school senior as being pretty much a "sure thing" to be playing in the NFL in 3 years? For every hit there's 5 misses, and so many things can and do happen. Saying with a degree of certainty that a kid will be in the NFL based solely on a couple videos seems ignorant to me, especially from someone like yourself who has undoubtedly seen numerous "can't misses" fail to develop at the next level and unheralded 3*s turn into the top NFL prospects. Go ahead and delete this or do with it as you please, I just think people should take it easy with some of the superlatives.
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No I do not find it irresponsible at all to declare that a kid has major potential that could land him in the NFL soon. Its called an opinion. Last time I checked, I do not receive a paycheck for any of this...it is 100% volunteer. I enjoy football, recruiting, and watching film. However, I do not consider my opinion to be above anyone else's opinion. If you find fault in my opinion, well...that is your opinion isn't it?
What I do find ignorant is your overreaction to this opinion and your presentation of such. What idiot does not realize that there are "can't misses" that miss? What sort of ignorant fool does not realize that potential does not always equal success? Next time, just for you, I will attach a disclaimer that the possibilities for failure are endless...my fault I assumed you were intelligent enough to realize all of this and assume it as a given.
I will say it one more time in my ignorant fashion, Ben Martin has HUGE potential and is the best prospect I have seen on film in years.
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02-27-2006, 11:42 AM
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More video of Ben in action.
My Take: Absolute monster. Ben's lateral movement, explosive acceleration, and usage of leverage is excellent. His frame is obvious in these clips...long arms reminiscent of Alonzo Spellman.
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