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He's probably just fat and lazy...

Wait, that doesn't apply here? You mean Michigan fans are going to have to come up with another excuse?
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So, "the next Larry Fitzgerald" wasn't getting enough PT?
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He's probably just fat and lazy...

Wait, that doesn't apply here? You mean Michigan fans are going to have to come up with another excuse?
You forgot slow. Seriously, I was hoping Clemons could step up this year. He is more of a physical wr and I think a fair comparison would have been to Avant. I wish the best for him and hope he finds a system to fit his abilities.
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By joe stapleton, written on May. 30, 2009

So I know this comes closely following the Steven Threet interview, which may make it seem like I am a bit trigger-happy as far as these things go. To tell you the truth, this one really fell in my lap and Toney just wanted to clear the air, in a way, with the fans and the University. I also took the opportunity to ask him a few questions about the NCAA?s handling of coaching changes in general (scroll down to the last two). So, about a week ago I did this interview with him over the phone. Here it is:

Joe Stapleton: What does Colorado have to offer that Michigan does not?

Toney Clemons: The funny thing about that is, it was what was so similar to Michigan that attracted me to Colorado. Coming in my freshman year with coach (Lloyd) Carr, the way my position coach was a big part of the offense was the same thing Colorado had to offer, my position coach (Colorado offensive coordinator Eric Kiesau) was promoted to offensive coordinator, I was his number one guy coming out of high school, and they had a lot of the same values that coach Carr and his staff had to offer. Caring about you as a person before a player, that was actually the main thing, coming in playing with Eric Kiesau was a big deal for me. He did wonders with (current Philadelphia Eagles wide receiver) DeSean Jackson coming out of Cal, and he thought I was the same type of talent, and he thought he could do a lot with me. So, the things that attracted me to Michigan coming out of high school were the same things that attracted me to Colorado. There really wasn?t much of a difference to be honest with you, that?s kind of the funny thing about the whole situation.



JS: There have been a lot of players who have said the values that were there under Lloyd Carr aren?t there under Rich Rodriguez. What values are you referring to?

TC: Well, the main difference for me, value-wise was with coach Carr (and his staff), they were like father figures, you know? They really raised you to be a man, they got you right, got you living right both on and off the field. When I talk about values, that?s what I?m talking about. I can talk to coach Carr now and get fatherly advice, same with (former Michigan wide receivers coach) Eric Campbell. They really teach you how to grow up. I can?t really compare my meaning of values to what other players have said, but for me, it just meant they really cared for you as a person?you came in the program as a boy, and they were going to make you a man. That?s something they stressed to parents, ?we?re going to raise your son, he?s going to be a great man as well as a great player.? That?s just something that they stressed and that was the difference for me. I just didn?t really see it as much in the new system, there were just different philosophies in the system. It was more than just a coaching change, it was a lifestyle change as well. That was the difference for me.

The Michigan Daily ? The Game ? Interview with former Michigan wide receiver Toney Clemons
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but Boren was just fat, lazy, and upset that he couldn't plow snow on the weekends.
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So another guy leaves and mentions values that Carr had and a difference in the new regime? Huh. Nothing to see here...
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I hated Carr because he was the scUM head coach, but he was a far better person then RR. ScUM fans just deny it, say the player was lazy, or not a good fit, or just wasn't good enough. RR is infact garbage, and one day I think the way RR does buiness will catch up with him.
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I hated Carr because he was the scUM head coach, but he was a far better person then RR. ScUM fans just deny it, say the player was lazy, or not a good fit, or just wasn't good enough. RR is infact garbage, and one day I think the way RR does buiness will catch up with him.
42-7.

But yes, he has more coming to him.
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Did anyone actually read the whole article?
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Yeah. We got the picture. Justin Boren was a little more straight up, but we got the picture from Clemons.
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Boren was a known grumpy gus who probably never takes the detour to UM if Bo doesn't swing by Pickerington.

Clemons still loves Michigan to this day and even accepted a bizarre move to slot to help the team. His comments carry a bit more weight than Justin's. Without a prayer of contributing at slot given his skillset, he's moved on to another program.
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