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Originally Posted by bukIpower
If anything I thought our defense was too soft, missed far too many tackles, didn't press the recievers enough, had missed coverage assignments. I thought over-all our offense played far better than our defense. I thought the defense was good but not great. We bent but didn't break, got turnovers, pressured the QB, laid some good sticks on some people, but I think we need to shore up some things.
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I thought that in the first half, the second half seemed to be more along the lines of what I have grown to expect. We got some fortunate turnovers and made the best of them. This is a young team, but, we seem to be on the right track. We went to a tough stadium, fell behind at the half and came back to dominate. Although, that last touchdown by Washington seemed like our defense was too Lax, call me greedy, but I wanted the second half shut out 
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09-16-2007, 01:06 AM
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I'd just like to give Grad21 some support. The Big Ten has been an embarrassment. It's disappointing but true. Appalachian State. Duke, for goodness sakes. Iowa was talking smack all week and then lost against Iowa State. Minnesota has come apart at the seams. It doesn't help to compare to UCLA's ass-kicking by Utah, the problems at Texas against mediocre teams, etc. Teams in our conference are losing to teams that they should be beating by a wide margin.
What surprises me most is the lack of defense that some teams have shown, especially Wisconsin. Not sure what less than 100 yards in Ann Arbor meant today, but I think very little. So, I don't think Grad21 has been too critical, and I will bet Tressel and the coaches will be much more critical yet.
We were very lucky to not be down 10-3 on Todd's fumble, that so many of Todd's passes were dropped, and that we got away with yanking at Washington helmets far too much. Youngsters, making youngsters mistakes.
All of that considered, I am very proud of our youngsters today. They are learning and growing game by game. As Tressel said, they showed that they aspire today, not that they have arrived. I am very much looking forward to seeing what they accomplish.
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09-16-2007, 01:10 AM
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1. Henton will NOT get a chance. I want to say that I was againast Todd ever starting in the first place, but I was wrong. I wanted Henton to start so badly because of how much he reminds me of Troy. After watching Boeckman though his passes have nice touch and when Boeckman gets warmed up in games he's a very good QB.
2. Boeckman is fine... Sure he threw some passes he shoudln't have, but they wound up incomplete so it's a mute point. He has a live arm, shows nice touch on the deep ball, and stands tall in the pocket. He is our QB for the next 2 years so I suggest you request a seat on his bandwaggon before it gets too full. He showed great throws to the outside, and threw darts in tight windows across the middle of the field for first downs numerous times. What more do we want from this kid? he throws for 58 percent, 200 yards, and 2 long Td's and we want more?
Here's what I think the case is... We've been straight up spoiled the last 3 years. Do we forget how awful this offense was in 2001-2003 (minus when Clarett was healthy)? Now all the sudden we almost get 500 yards offense and we're bashing our starting QB or saying the wow factor isn't there? I say who freakin cares... We WON, our o-line DOMINATED, Beanie was off the charts, and our recievers stepped up! Sure the offense isn't as explosive as 2006 but this offense is still getting positive yards and the best thing is.. we're YOUNG! This offense in general doesn't have a wow factor. Beanie doesn't even have a wow factor. His style, while it pleases me, won't please the rest the country. People wanna see running backs go around and juke and break the big one. Beanie is about getting his carries and bringing pain to the tackler and wearing down on the defense. The only person on this offense who has the potential to WOW anyone is Ray Small..
If anything I thought our defense was too soft, missed far too many tackles, didn't press the recievers enough, had missed coverage assignments. I thought over-all our offense played far better than our defense. I thought the defense was good but not great. We bent but didn't break, got turnovers, pressured the QB, laid some good sticks on some people, but I think we need to shore up some things.
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I agree. Barring injury, Boeckman will probably be the man under center for the next two seasons. He is improving and will continue to improve. Two weeks ago he was making his first start and hadn't taken a meaningful snap in a game since he was a senior in high school five years ago. Also, they mentioned during the broadcast today that the staff is probably still trying to find out exactly what they have with this guy - what he does well and what he does not. The last few years, the offense revolved around Troy Smith's strengths. Todd Boeckman has different strengths, and it's gonna take time for those to come through and for the staff to exploit them fully. I think the team will be fine with Boeckman and for now criticism of his shortcomings should be somewhat tempered.
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09-16-2007, 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by bukIpower
1. Henton will NOT get a chance. I want to say that I was againast Todd ever starting in the first place, but I was wrong. I wanted Henton to start so badly because of how much he reminds me of Troy. After watching Boeckman though his passes have nice touch and when Boeckman gets warmed up in games he's a very good QB.
2. Boeckman is fine... Sure he threw some passes he shoudln't have, but they wound up incomplete so it's a mute point. He has a live arm, shows nice touch on the deep ball, and stands tall in the pocket. He is our QB for the next 2 years so I suggest you request a seat on his bandwaggon before it gets too full. He showed great throws to the outside, and threw darts in tight windows across the middle of the field for first downs numerous times. What more do we want from this kid? he throws for 58 percent, 200 yards, and 2 long Td's and we want more?
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He did have a really bad 1st half, but I think he redeemed himself in the 2nd. I like that even when it wasn't working he didn't seem distressed or to crack. It was like he knew he just needed to keep working through it.
On a sidenote, Boeckmans' QB rating (per espn) is 152.4. Not all against patsies, and good enough for #3 in the B10 -- not that it means much though. I'm guessing anyone could do that in what amounts to the rich-mans' MAC.
He's also 22 nationally. Nothing spectacular, but very solid and much appreciated from me.
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09-16-2007, 01:17 AM
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I hear ya on that one... We did a lot of GREAT things today, but did a lot of poor things today as well.
What I'm bout to say isn't just cuz I'm an Ohio State fan but its because its the truth... OSU is untouchable in the big ten as far as teams that are ELITE. Sure once in a while Wusconsin, PSU or Michigan beat us or sometimes we take 2nd in the big ten, but even when our teams are young we play at a very high level. When other teams in the conference lose players they are down and out for 1-2 years sometimes longer. We are the most consistent in just about every category possible as well. We'll be #1 in defense every year, and somewhere in the top 4 in offense as well. If we left our starters in long enough we would be in the top 2 every year on offense in the big ten. However, the way we get all our kids playing time and experience is WHY we don't fall off the face of the earth when we lose talent.
Who else in our conference could lose what we did last year and still be a top 10 team?
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09-16-2007, 01:20 AM
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I thought that in the first half, the second half seemed to be more along the lines of what I have grown to expect. We got some fortunate turnovers and made the best of them. This is a young team, but, we seem to be on the right track. We went to a tough stadium, fell behind at the half and came back to dominate. Although, that last touchdown by Washington seemed like our defense was too Lax, call me greedy, but I wanted the second half shut out |
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good points by all though I would like to say..
You're right.. I bet the coaches still don't know what Boeckman's limits are. What we do know is that he has great touch on the deep ball!
also great point 23Skidoo... He never seems rattled does he? Now that you said something I totally missed that aspect of him. He's very calm, and knows this offense decently well for how many games he's started. Plus that QB rating is a good thing to see! If todd can progress at the rate he is we'll be a damn tough team to beat.
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