BCS National Championship Game: tOSU 24, LSU 38 (final)

[Nordberg]

Originally Posted by sluTiger

Tiger, I think you may be on to something, but I think people are really evaluating overall pattern. What I do not think people see how conservative Miles was 2 years prior to this season. He was strongly criticized for being to conservative and not taking risk with his talent. Honestly, I just think that guy will not win the public perception fight because he is not a great public speaker. I think the difference in this year vs last is Miles has really been a gambler and that is what got him a championship. Actually I believe Miles was trying to out talent people his first two years and this year he is just letting it rip. If he looses against OSU, it will be a 10-3 season with a championship, that is not bad...

I think this speaks volumes about how Miles has grown as a coach. After having Tress coach tOSU I can tell that having a great coach and knowing how to adjust to different teams is huge for a College team. Looking back at the 2002 season, we called it "Tressel ball" because our offense wasn't the greatest. Our defense was lights-out and our special teams was just that...Special. We didn't turn the ball over and played the field position game. The same thing was with the scUM game. Tress knew that we didn't need to throw the ball in the second half because we were already ahead. Miles seems like he has that same approach this year. I knows when he needs to "go for it" and when he needs to rely on his defense. I think this will be a great game with really good match-ups. I am getting excited and very nervous about this game. I hope it is a great one.

[BB73]

Originally Posted by Nutriaitch

I'm not ready to induct Les into the Hall of Fame or anything, I just think he deserves more credit than he gets. He's doing exactly what he was hired to do here. Run a clean program, compete for an SEC title every year, and keep us in the running for a MNC.

I'm wondering about the use of "M" in MNC. Is this still done out of habit? I mean with an actual Championship Game being played under the BCS for the past 10 seasons, the only "Mythical" NC that's been awarded to anybody was the 2003 AP vote for USC.

Hey, I thought it was time LSU and tOSU posters found some common ground.

[sluTiger]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeNation27

-I'm going off of memory here, but going for it on the goal line seems like the most risky to me. I think the lead was 10 at the time, but you would know more than I would.
-It takes more than a shakey FG kicker to convince me that was a good play call. Maybe if they had gotten it called and gotten the players out there well before the 7 or 8 seconds that were left...but it was complete luck that it worked. Not luck like every team has in a game multiple times....but luck like that shouldn't have worked.

And I don't buy the outfoxed argument either. the coverage on that play was perfect. nobody got outfoxed.....it was a stupid decision that worked.

- Yeah! Time out! Time out time out....whuh?
YouTube - Les Miles Calls Time Out

Oh, yeah that was is first year at LSU when he blew that 21 pt lead. Seriously, he was not ready for SEC football at that time. When he walked out on the field with that Brittney Spears headset my reaction was oh [censored] we are in trouble. This guy has never coach in big time stadiums. I was right back then, but if you do not see his evolution as a coach, then you are just not watching or refusing to see it.

Do I expect mistakes that cost games? sure it will happen to all coaches. On could argue that Tressel cost OSU the NC last year. What I look for in a good coach is can they learn from the mistakes and improve. Miles has done that and with championship experience under his belt, LSU program is in good shape.

I disagree with the coverage being perfect. Byrd burnt that CB and he was playing catch up. The DB NEVER looked for the ball so I would not call that perfect coverage. Flynn threw the perfect pass and Byrd made an incredible catch. This guy is NOT Mike Archer and LSU will be a national power for many years to come...

[Nutriaitch]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeNation27

Oh, how about the numerous 4th down conversions in the Florida game. The completely idiotic TD pass against Auburn. Combine those with his bad coaching moves that he's made since being at LSU (calling a time out after an INT to stop the clock for example) makes me think he's more of a bumbling doofus than somebody like Bo Schembechler going for a TD instead of a tying FG against OSU.

Um down by 3, needing to score, late in the 4th quarter sounds like a pretty good time to go for it on 4th down. Not once during that drive would anyone have said "oh no, you got to punt it and hope to get the ball back with enough time to do something with it." Going for it in that Florida game was absolutely the right thing to do. Every one of them was 4th and short, and they hadn't even came close to stopping Hester to that point.

The Auburn game (which I've said before) was also the right call. The play was called, and huddle broken with plenty of time on the clock. Flynn should have had it snapped with about 12 seconds to go. Incomplete pass would have left about 4-7 seconds left on the clock. The only thing that made it close, was Flynn loligagging through his snap count. Any coach worth his salt would have taken a shot at the endzone 1st, then kicked it.

I'll give you that time-out call after the int.

Originally Posted by BB73

I'm wondering about the use of "M" in MNC. Is this still done out of habit? I mean with an actual Championship Game being played under the BCS for the past 10 seasons, the only "Mythical" NC that's been awarded to anybody was the 2003 AP vote for USC.

Hey, I thought it was time LSU and tOSU posters found some common ground.

Yeah, still a habit.

[jwinslow]

I disagree with the coverage being perfect. Byrd burnt that CB and he was playing catch up. The DB NEVER looked for the ball so I would not call that perfect coverage. Flynn threw the perfect pass and Byrd made an incredible catch. This guy is NOT Mike Archer and LSU will be a national power for many years to come...

Flynn did NOT throw a perfect pass (ie to the WR or no one), and admitted as much on the field afterwards when interviewed... but was glad Byrd made a great play on the ball.

That ball could have easily been intercepted. When the WR has to come back for the ball and catch it with a defenders arm inbetween his, it's not really debatable.

[Lockup]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeNation27

-I'm going off of memory here, but going for it on the goal line seems like the most risky to me. I think the lead was 10 at the time, but you would know more than I would.
-It takes more than a shakey FG kicker to convince me that was a good play call. Maybe if they had gotten it called and gotten the players out there well before the 7 or 8 seconds that were left...but it was complete luck that it worked. Not luck like every team has in a game multiple times....but luck like that shouldn't have worked.

And I don't buy the outfoxed argument either. the coverage on that play was perfect. nobody got outfoxed.....it was a stupid decision that worked.

- Yeah! Time out! Time out time out....whuh?
YouTube - Les Miles Calls Time Out

I love that his other coach looks like he is running up to him at the end as if to say "WTF are you doing coach?"