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It could happen, but in his videos he just plain looks like a natural linebacker, and I'd see him playing a Carp or a Will Smith type role before I see him becoming an every down defensive end. I just don't see him putting his hand in the dirt every down, not with his athleticism and instincts. Our staff has shown that they'll innovate to utilize the abilities of our players to their fullest, and I hope Hale recognizes that. I think he could be special at Ohio State simply because of our history with similar prospects.
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06-10-2007, 02:45 PM
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I'm of the frame of mind that, it doesn't matter what size/athleticsm you are, if you look like a natural at the position, and dominate at it, the measurables don't really matter.
Why move Hale from linebacker, a position he's already dominant at, to defensive end, a position that he would be required to learn and there is no gaurantee he'll be dominant at?
Now, using him in a carp OLB/LEO type role is a different story.
Besides, having a 6'4 260 lb linebacker roving the middle of our defense with the speed to keep up with most outside linebackers is never a bad situation. Brian Urlacher could tell you a bit about these type of measurables.
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06-10-2007, 05:58 PM
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I'm of the frame of mind that, it doesn't matter what size/athleticsm you are, if you look like a natural at the position, and dominate at it, the measurables don't really matter.
Why move Hale from linebacker, a position he's already dominant at, to defensive end, a position that he would be required to learn and there is no gaurantee he'll be dominant at?
Now, using him in a carp OLB/LEO type role is a different story.
Besides, having a 6'4 260 lb linebacker roving the middle of our defense with the speed to keep up with most outside linebackers is never a bad situation. Brian Urlacher could tell you a bit about these type of measurables.
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While Hale is a fantastic prospect with great insticts, I think it's a bit pre-mature to compare him to Brian Urlacher. Urlacher is a veteran in the NFL and he's 260. Hale is a HS JR and he's pushing 245. Secondly, while Hale has great lateral quickness, intsitcs, and closing speed, he isn't exactly known for blazing speed. Urlacher ran in the 4.4's at the NFL combine. I don't think Hale would even get near that if he were running at a combine.
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06-11-2007, 01:04 AM
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While Hale is a fantastic prospect with great insticts, I think it's a bit pre-mature to compare him to Brian Urlacher. Urlacher is a veteran in the NFL and he's 260. Hale is a HS JR and he's pushing 245. Secondly, while Hale has great lateral quickness, intsitcs, and closing speed, he isn't exactly known for blazing speed. Urlacher ran in the 4.4's at the NFL combine. I don't think Hale would even get near that if he were running at a combine.
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I'm not comparing him with urlacher. I'm simply pointing out that just because you're 6'4-6'5 and 260ish pounds, doesnt mean you need to be a defensive end. |
06-11-2007, 01:33 AM
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By all accounts, he is physically excellent, but isn't an excellent football player yet. He lacks consistency. Some plays he will look like a superstar and some plays he looks mediocre. We see the best of him on films but people who watch him all year watch him with some doubts.
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06-11-2007, 02:58 AM
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I just have a hard time seeing a kid who is only a JR who is pushing 245 pounds play LB'er in college.
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Bobby Carpenter played LB at 260+...
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06-11-2007, 09:33 AM
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By all accounts, he is physically excellent, but isn't an excellent football player yet. He lacks consistency. Some plays he will look like a superstar and some plays he looks mediocre. We see the best of him on films but people who watch him all year watch him with some doubts.
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Not to sound like a leach, but that is exactly how I would have described what I've seen from Shayne so far. Workout/combine freak but doesn't have the instincts to play with the consistancy you would like to see at this point. Doesn't mean he can't work on that with a position coach in college and become a more consistant and complete LB. But right now his game is lacking a little bit of the read/react pace that is needed to play LB at a school like OSU or UM. |
06-15-2007, 10:55 AM
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Update on Shayne's summer plans: one of my Domer informants is saying Hale will visit South Bend the 26th this month.
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