Ohio State 3, Southern Cal 35 (Sept. 13)

[powerlifter]

Originally Posted by martinss01

that brings up a good quesiton. what does beanie actually weigh? i know jl is listed at 240 and i have a hard time believing beanie weighs lesst han jl does. not saying he doesn't, just that id need proof on that one. and by proof i mean not the same listing that shows tank whaley is 6'1 .

I would guess an honest weight of 225-230. I have seen him in person,and he is good size. He's a great blend of a lot of things(not just weight). Moving him up in weight probably won't help him as much as just improving more so overall on everything else(like i'm betting he will)...

[bukIpower]

I think animal' is taller than beanie though.. but you're right I'd have money on Beanie weighing more. James to me looked around 235-240 last year

How is USC's crowd? are they known to get loud or....

[leroyjenkins]

Originally Posted by bukIpower

I think animal' is taller than beanie though.. but you're right I'd have money on Beanie weighing more. James to me looked around 235-240 last year

How is USC's crowd? are they known to get loud or....

............not

[buckeyes_rock]

17 pages already and this game is still 6 months away.

I think this just might be a pretty big game huh?

[bukIpower]

yup it is definatly a big time game... I guess I should've known about USC's fan base noise by the fact we only got like 1-2 USC fans here... 2-3 years ago at this time before we faced off against Texas in the shoe' I bet we had 100 pages already.... The texas fan base was awesome! Probably had 10-15 regular daily posters, and while Xrayrandy was annoying as hell it was fun arguing on good terms with them. Sure made time go by faster! I dunno bout you but this off season so far is CRAWLING it seems this year and i believe its because we don't have those USC posters over here. This game is bigger than the Texas series IMO, but the hype won't be nearly as great because of the lack of USC posters here.

My point of view of USC, is that many/most of their fans are bandwaggon fans.

[leroyjenkins]

Originally Posted by bukIpower

yup it is definatly a big time game... I guess I should've known about USC's fan base noise by the fact we only got like 1-2 USC fans here... 2-3 years ago at this time before we faced off against Texas in the shoe' I bet we had 100 pages already.... The texas fan base was awesome! Probably had 10-15 regular daily posters, and while Xrayrandy was annoying as hell it was fun arguing on good terms with them. Sure made time go by faster! I dunno bout you but this off season so far is CRAWLING it seems this year and i believe its because we don't have those USC posters over here. This game is bigger than the Texas series IMO, but the hype won't be nearly as great because of the lack of USC posters here.

My point of view of USC, is that many/most of their fans are bandwaggon fans.

Big, but not as big as Herbie would make it seem!

[bukIpower]

lol I don't listen to herbie anymore..... Ever since herbie said we're as good as a MAC team after the LSU game I've kinda just tuned him out. For once it seems Lee, and Chris knew that OSU' was good enough but the errors/execution was a problem.

If we don't come out and punch USC in the mouth there's something wrong here.... I'm going to base this game on wether we need coaching changes or not (not tressel, but O-coordinator/D-coordinator). Because if we come out and get pushed around on defense/offense with what we have returning forget about it its ALL coaching. Next year with what we have, a NC is what should be expected and anything else would be to me a failed mission.

Sure I'd be happy with a big ten championship, and a rose bowl visit if it came to it. However, LOOK at the talent we have coming back... No one has what we have coming back. Sure, Georgia/Florida have talent coming back but not 20 total starters not to mention all our backups as well. With Beanie full go and with an oline being together for almost 3 years now we should be able to do what we want on offense. As for the defense, we should be the best in the nation obviously. We got the best Corner, the best Middle Linebacker, and 1 of the top 3 OLB's in college football. This defense should be able to stand up to any of the top offensive teams in the league.

[buckeye78]

My question is, with the people that USC lost this year, even though it will be in the colliseum, what people think the opening line will be. The buckeyes will have to be favored, IMO, and if they are not, it will be a symptom of the anti-Buckeye sentiment nationally being perhaps our biggest difficulty in returning to the MNC game, as I can't see us losing any, but no more than one game this year. There's no doubt we will be overlooked in the event that we are not undefeated, unless it's Oklahoma that we are competing for a spot against. Sorry, there's a lot in there i suppose, but talent will not be an issue next year, as coaching, and game breaks will be the difference between another NC or dissapointment.

[OregonBuckeye]

The wait is unbearable! I just visited the USC scout board for the first time and lo and behold, I see a thread saying how they're going to crush us because we're another slow plodding Big-10 team.

I feel like Cartman waiting for Nintendo Wii.

[methomps]

Originally Posted by bukIpower

yup it is definatly a big time game... I guess I should've known about USC's fan base noise by the fact we only got like 1-2 USC fans here... 2-3 years ago at this time before we faced off against Texas in the shoe' I bet we had 100 pages already.... The texas fan base was awesome! Probably had 10-15 regular daily posters, and while Xrayrandy was annoying as hell it was fun arguing on good terms with them. Sure made time go by faster! I dunno bout you but this off season so far is CRAWLING it seems this year and i believe its because we don't have those USC posters over here. This game is bigger than the Texas series IMO, but the hype won't be nearly as great because of the lack of USC posters here.

My point of view of USC, is that many/most of their fans are bandwaggon fans.

By that token, I guess a USC fan who, like me, has seen very few Buckeye fans on the USC board should conclude that OSU fans are bandwagoners? And is the lack of USC fans here an indication that the bandwagon is broken down on the 405? Or do bandwagon fans just not visit other boards? I don't get it.

[BB73]

Originally Posted by buckeye78

My question is, with the people that USC lost this year, even though it will be in the colliseum, what people think the opening line will be. The buckeyes will have to be favored, IMO, and if they are not, it will be a symptom of the anti-Buckeye sentiment nationally being perhaps our biggest difficulty in returning to the MNC game, as I can't see us losing any, but no more than one game this year.

I would expect USC to be a 3 or 4 point favorite. They lose more players, but they have a lot of talent; so the matchups will be close, and the home field will be the biggest factor in the spread.

[buckeye78]

Originally Posted by BB73

I would expect USC to be a 3 or 4 point favorite. They lose more players, but they have a lot of talent; so the matchups will be close, and the home field will be the biggest factor in the spread.

That's fine with me, under normal circumstances, being the underdog is a role I think the buckeyes like. After the NC game, not so sure that's the case anymore, or at least it's no longer a clear motivational advantage. This is going to be a good game, IMO, but i'm not sure about anyone other than McKnight being a serious threat offensively, with either mustain or the other guy playing QB, i'm not so sure the bucks don't shut them down defensively.

[buckeyes_rock]

Originally Posted by methomps

By that token, I guess a USC fan who, like me, has seen very few Buckeye fans on the USC board should conclude that OSU fans are bandwagoners? And is the lack of USC fans here an indication that the bandwagon is broken down on the 405? Or do bandwagon fans just not visit other boards? I don't get it.

Well, I spend every bit of free time on the Buckeye Planet, so I don't have time to frequent any other team boards.

[Taosman]

USC at home +3. 2 weeks to prepare. Worth another 2 points.
Hype= 14! Hard to bet against them at home any time.

[gregorylee]

I would not be surprised at all the see a line of 5.5 or a little larger.