FIESTA BOWL: tOSU 21, Texas 24 (01-05-09)

[Poe McKnoe]

Texas is a very athletic team (read: SEC fast). What's more surprising is how fast Colt McCoy is.

The good news is that Texas can't run the ball...Their leading rusher (besides McCoy) is Vondrell McGee with 88 rushes for 376. Yes, that's right, it's like they didn't even try. But Cody Johnson is a physical freak of nature at 5'11" 255lbs and he's even got some moves. But what am I kidding, this is not a dynamic rushing team.

They've done what they've had to do, but this isn't Oklahoma or USC (in terms of balance) or Florida (in terms of explosiveness).

But, again, Colt McCoy is both explosive and balanced and probably still upset he had to play Ohio State in his first few games of his freshman year.

[Poe McKnoe]

Originally Posted by heisman

Why is everyone so sure Texas won't be #2 in the BCS? They have a 2-3 spot advantage over Florida in the computers this morning. This could get interesting to say the least.

I think Ohio State-Michigan circa 2006 answered this.

Also, it's SEC vs Big 12 which everyone wants to see. We call it a BCS system, but really everyone gets to pick who they want (see LSU 2007). They made an astronomical leap after beating Tennessee, of all teams, in the SEC championship game.

Unrelated, but what good is a championship game if it doesn't even put the two best teams in the conference against each other. Georgia didn't even play LSU in 2007 and Oklahoma got to play Missouri? C'mon.

[Jake]

Originally Posted by heisman

Why is everyone so sure Texas won't be #2 in the BCS?

For the same reason LSU went from #7 to #2, leaping past #4 Georgia in the process. The voters will make sure we don't get Oklahoma-Texas in the NC game.

[xcrunner]

Originally Posted by Jake

For the same reason LSU went from #7 to #2, leaping past #4 Georgia in the process. The voters will make sure we don't get Oklahoma-Texas in the NC game.

I'm sure that it won't happen, but I think it's almost more likely to happen this time than in '06. I think it's a definite possibility that the humans have Texas #3, some (i.e. B12 coaches) might have them #2 (and I bet a few have them as #1). Meanwhile the computers have them above Florida. In '06, the computers didn't have TSUN above FL... This time it might be enough to push texas over.

Doubt it, but I do think it's a possibility.

[BuckeyeMac]

Originally Posted by xcrunner

I'm sure that it won't happen, but I think it's almost more likely to happen this time than in '06. I think it's a definite possibility that the humans have Texas #3, some (i.e. B12 coaches) might have them #2 (and I bet a few have them as #1). Meanwhile the computers have them above Florida. In '06, the computers didn't have TSUN above FL... This time it might be enough to push texas over.

Doubt it, but I do think it's a possibility.

Could be the case, but then people will bring up the fact that Texas didn't play for their conference championship. And if they somehow get into the Nat'l Champ. people are going to be up in arms

[notfadeaway]

All I know Is I cant wait to find out for sure when and if the Buckeyes are coming back to Arizona!!!!

[Jake]

Originally Posted by xcrunner

I'm sure that it won't happen, but I think it's almost more likely to happen this time than in '06. I think it's a definite possibility that the humans have Texas #3, some (i.e. B12 coaches) might have them #2 (and I bet a few have them as #1). Meanwhile the computers have them above Florida. In '06, the computers didn't have TSUN above FL... This time it might be enough to push texas over.

Doubt it, but I do think it's a possibility.

I was talking about 07, when a conference champ leapfrogged at team that didn't make it to its conference title game.

I don't think 06 is all that similar. scUM got demoted because the voters felt they had already had their shot at us.

Texas is out. They were out yesterday once Oklahoma won.

[Tresselbeliever]

Originally Posted by Jake

scUM got demoted because the voters felt they had already had their shot at us.

Texas is out. They were out yesterday once Oklahoma won.

Funny how Texas got demoted this time despite beating OU. OU had their shot and lost, I don't know what else the voters want from Texas.

[BengalsAndBucks]

This year's scenario would be different than 2006 because: a) Texas beat Oklahoma in the first meeting, so it is concievable that they could sneak in, whereas Michigan lost in the first meeting, b) there was so much controversy regarding which Big 12 team should make the championship game, and a lot of people felt Texas got the raw deal there and may still have them ranked ahead of Oklahoma by virtue of their head-to-head win, c) Michigan was behind Florida in the computers in 2006. Texas is ahead of Florida in the computers.

If we did get an OU-Texas rematch in the NC, what would happen to the rest of the bowls? Florida would default into the Sugar and Alabama would oppose us in the Fiesta?

[Steve19]

Originally Posted by Jake

For the same reason LSU went from #7 to #2, leaping past #4 Georgia in the process. The voters will make sure we don't get Oklahoma-Texas in the NC game.

I think you hit the nail on the head.

[scarletngray]

Interesting scenario regarding a OU vs Tx NC game. Meyer would face his former Utah team in the Sugar (from a promotional standpoint that could possible sell) and we would play Bama in the Fiesta. Sounds about right to me.

[heisman]

Originally Posted by Poe McKnoe

I think Ohio State-Michigan circa 2006 answered this.

Michigan lost. Texas won.

Edit: Coaches Poll is out with #2 Florida and #3 Texas. Texas is leading Florida in all the computers. It will come down to Florida's margin in the Harris Poll. It should be enough, but I've seen weirder.

[MililaniBuckeye]

Originally Posted by elliemae

I can make you holler!

You live in squalor...

[RhodeIslandBuck]

Early Prediction:

Texas - 31
Ohio State - 21

[Tresselbeliever]

A healthy Moeller and Hines will make a huge difference. I'm going to predict 35-24 Bucks.