05-22-2008, 10:40 AM
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So what you are telling me is that if Wilson told Bo Ryan that he was going to commit to him that he wouldn't have a spot for him?
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Hell if I know. The only thing we have to go by is the factual information provided by the recruiting sites that tell us that when Jamil will be a college freshman, Wisconsin's roster will consist of three seniors (Bohannon, Gavinski, Hughes), three juniors (Leuer, Nankivil, Jarmusz), five sophomores (Wilson, Berggren, Jordan Taylor, Markolf, & the newly signed Evans), and two freshmen (Diamond Taylor, Bruesewitz). That's thirteen players, which is the NCAA limit for scholarships. Now, knowing the type of person Bo is, I certainly wouldn't put it past him to boot someone to make room for Jamil, but at this point, the fact is undisputable: Wisconsin has no scholarships available for the 2009 class.
Now, some Wisconsin fans have been claiming that Gavinski will "transfer," but looking at his history and comments, the only way the kid leaves is if Bo shows him the door. He committed to Wisconsin the summer after his sophomore season, is from Wisconsin, and has been a diehard Badger all his life. If JP Gavinski voluntarily transfers from Wisconsin, then I'm the next President of the United States.
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05-22-2008, 11:11 AM
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Like Bernini has said one player on average has left Wisky every year...Is it crazy to think that one of the guys as frosh might not see the time they think, or one of the sophomores and leave...
I am not saying they are going to boot someone, but when you have a top 15 kid in the country from your home state, you don't fill up your scholarships and not have one open when you know you have a good chance with him...
Try and use common sense on this one and not blinded glasses for a good chance for MSU to pull him in...Would MSU of filled up their ships if Delvon Roe would of wanted to wait...If it did look like they had 13 don't you think that Izzo and the coaching staff would of known something that maybe everyone else didn't?
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Hell if I know. The only thing we have to go by is the factual information provided by the recruiting sites that tell us that when Jamil will be a college freshman, Wisconsin's roster will consist of three seniors (Bohannon, Gavinski, Hughes), three juniors (Leuer, Nankivil, Jarmusz), five sophomores (Wilson, Berggren, Jordan Taylor, Markolf, & the newly signed Evans), and two freshmen (Diamond Taylor, Bruesewitz). That's thirteen players, which is the NCAA limit for scholarships. Now, knowing the type of person Bo is, I certainly wouldn't put it past him to boot someone to make room for Jamil, but at this point, the fact is undisputable: Wisconsin has no scholarships available for the 2009 class.
Now, some Wisconsin fans have been claiming that Gavinski will "transfer," but looking at his history and comments, the only way the kid leaves is if Bo shows him the door. He committed to Wisconsin the summer after his sophomore season, is from Wisconsin, and has been a diehard Badger all his life. If JP Gavinski voluntarily transfers from Wisconsin, then I'm the next President of the United States.
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assuing all players stay for years, make the grades and enjoy the program.
bern has shown hes a good reliable accurate poster. is he always right, no but no one is excetp for uni...
id caution you to dial it back a tad. what you are saying is good stuff you just dont have to push the envelope so hard to say it...
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05-22-2008, 02:38 PM
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Like Bernini has said one player on average has left Wisky every year...Is it crazy to think that one of the guys as frosh might not see the time they think, or one of the sophomores and leave...
I am not saying they are going to boot someone, but when you have a top 15 kid in the country from your home state, you don't fill up your scholarships and not have one open when you know you have a good chance with him...
Try and use common sense on this one and not blinded glasses for a good chance for MSU to pull him in...Would MSU of filled up their ships if Delvon Roe would of wanted to wait...If it did look like they had 13 don't you think that Izzo and the coaching staff would of known something that maybe everyone else didn't?
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Considering we had Ed Davis ready to visit if Delvon had committed to UNC, I'm quite sure Izzo would've taken a commitment from Davis rather than waiting for a decision from Roe. |
05-22-2008, 02:53 PM
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back to jamil...
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iu can do it but no way wisky could...
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Shouldn't this be move to the 2009 Basketball Recruiting Forum since Wilson seemingly has no interest in OSU? I'm tired of seeing new posts in this thread only to open it and find more talk about his interest in Wisky, MSU, IU, etc. |
05-23-2008, 01:18 AM
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Now, knowing the type of person Bo is, I certainly wouldn't put it past him to boot someone to make room for Jamil
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Your slanderous character assassination of Bo Ryan wouldn't have anything to do with 11-3 against Michigan State, would it?
If anything he's criticized for being too loyal to the players already in the program. He's distributed significant minutes to walk-ons like Kevin Gullickson and Tanner Bronson in the past. Clayton Hanson started after joining the program as a walk-on. 90 percent of the scholarship players who stay in the program for their entire college careers, start eventually. Jason Chappell, Andreas Helmigk, Ray Nixon, had no business starting over their under-class teammates. But Bo prefers experience because he thinks continuity in his system breeds consistency and he wants to re-pay players for committing to the Wisconsin program when they had the option of going elsewhere.
So why then would he force out junior to bes for a freshman? He wouldn't.
Bo Ryan runs one of the cleanest programs in the country. He's conservative at the risk of putting a cap on his success. But if the kid is considering leaving, Bo needs to cover his bases, just like every other coach in America.
You're really clueless about this situation, the Wisconsin program, etc.
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