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Originally Posted by lvbuckeye
Pride: i hope you didn't take my comments personally, because they weren't...
as for 'not exactly bottom of the barrel,' seriously, you can't do much worse than 1-10... Iowa flat out SUCKED BALLS when he took over... he has taken a terrible team to a higher stratus than at any time in it's long history without the blue chip talent of the perrenial powers... i think he's a [censored]ing amazing coach, but i guess that's JMHO...
the thing that i find most amusing is that you included Larry Coker in your top ten... if you are telling me that Coker would do a similar job in Iowa City than he's doing in Coral Gables, then i don't even know how to respond... Miami consistently has top 5 talent, and all Coker has done is lose one more game each year than he did the year before... 12-0, 12-1, 11-2, 9-3... there's no way that he would replicate 3 straight top 8 finishes in Iowa if he can barely even do that in Miami... all Coker needs to do is not [censored] things up, and the Canes will finish in the top 10 each year on talent alone... you simply cannot say the same for the Hawkeyes...
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Well its more of Ferentz year of going 1-10, IMO, that hurts his record. As for Coker, I personally look at his track record of the last four years and see that in Miami he has went 44-6. In those victories Coker led his Hurricanes to two consecutive NC Title Game appearances (2001-02), won a National Title, won 3 consecutive Big East Championship Titles (2001-02-03), has out scored his opponents (total points) by at least 165 points each year (395 pts. his first year), has kept the rectruiting level above par and has beaten Florida St. & Florida a combined 7 times (in 4 years = everytime he played the teams). Do I think he has turned around the program? He11 no, lol. The program has been very good through the 90s and very good going into his tenure. Do I think hes a consistant coach however? Yes, his years at Miami mirror in Tressels to the facts that he took over a well known powerhouse football program and kept the traditions going at a higher level than most schools in the country. I just feel that if Tressel gets the credit for it, Coker might as well to. Im sure there are objections that Tressel took over a 6-6 Cooper squad, but at the time
OSU had the talent, and more so needed the right coaching directions.
Its VERY difficult to mix and match coaches that have improved teams, taken over high powered teams, won more games, won more titles, anjd/or have just been steady all in the same Top 10. Every coach in my Top 10 has had its own circumstances going into their schools and have different reasons for being there - case in point = Cooker and Ferentz.