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Originally Posted by Yertle
Obviously, if I've learned ANYTHING in my 27 years of watching football, I've learned that the ground can't cause a fumble and a safety/FG is the only way to score 5 points.
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Yertle, I think you've only learned half of what you thought you learned.
Mike Tirico said last week that the ground can cause a fumble. And since that was said on ESPN, I'm still on topic with the thread name.
I've always hated that "ground can't cause a fumble" line. If a guy is carrying the ball loose, and the ball contacts the ground without him being down, the ground 'caused' a legit fumble. Now when guys go to the ground with the ball in a normal tucked position, the elbow hitting the ground ends the play before the ball is jarred loose. But if the ball-carrier isn't falling due to contact, and the ball hits the ground before the elbow, shoulder, hip, ass, back, helmet, or knee...that's a fumble, and the ground 'caused' it. Based on my understanding of college rules.