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Originally Posted by Buckeyeskickbuttocks
Iowa Pre-Flight should count. These war era "Schools" featured some of the best talent from rosters all over the region, including guys that had been at Ohio State but opted to go fight in WWII.
I believe Paul Brown even coached Iowa Pre-flight for a bit, maybe BB73 knows for sure.
Anyway, it sounds like it shouldn't count, but you better believe IPF had some talent....
Oh, and in line with you're historical champion stuff, I couldn't agree more. An embarassing chunk - all but 2 - of their titles were "awarded" by retroactive services.
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Paul Brown coached at Great Lakes Naval Station during WW-II (1944-45), not Iowa Pre-Flight. In 1942, Iowa pre-flight was coached by Bernie Bierman, who had won four NC's with Minnesota over the previous 10 years. tOSU's victory over Iowa Pre-Flight at the end of 1942 (with Brown coaching against Bierman) sealed the school's first NC.
Those WW-II teams were very legitimate competition. In fact, some of their players had actually played football professionaly after completing their college careers. The normal eligibility rules were waived during wartime, and those wartime teams became football powers. The 1942 Iowa Pre-Flight Seahawks included players that had previously played at tOSU, TSUN, ND, and Texas.
They played tough schedules as well. That 1942 Iowa Pre-Flight team played seven teams that had been ranked at the end of 1941, and they played 9 road games, including at defending champ Minnesota.