FWIW..kruelic said in his free chat yesterday that he doesnt consider hale to be in this
osu class..said the package deal is for real b/c saddler is somewhat the mouthpiece for the soft spoken hale...also said
osu will not offer saddler just to get hale because of the numbers crunch.....from his chat it made it sound like hale wont be coming to
osu...just passing it on