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Originally Posted by Penguin-BUCK
Sorry on this one I don't agree! Herbdick is pushing his luck and has crossed the line of a true buckeye. I don't know if JT or another staff member [censored]ed him off or he is simply trying to impress his colleagues. But he is not impressing me or a lot of true Buckeye fans. Bottom line is there is no twisting of words here, Geigers 100 % right! One other thing about ineffectiveness, I have seen much improvement over the last four weeks on offence haven't you? In edition Anything negative said on our website could not land us that next great recruit. Herbstreit says these things on live TV ... not to mention on the GAMEDAY show.
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Who the [censored] are you? Herbie has done more for this program than you have, I'll guarantee that. And I've seen his excitement and support for the Buckeyes, on National TV no less. Anyone that questions that need only watch the 2002 Fiesta Bowl to see him 3 feet off the ground celebrating a good play by TOSU. This ignorant bull[censored] is just crazy talk. Herbie works for ESPN, and he does his job. It's what he's paid to do. He is never, EVER negative towards the program here - and before you have another hissie fit, please understand that constructive criticism is not negativity. If you don't agree that
OSU's offense has sucked, then you're a flaming idiot. And yeah, the O has improved the last 3-4 games or so. But it's still in the bottom 20% of the NCAA, which just proves how bad it was to begin with.
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Originally Posted by Dryden
And your statement about Michigan's O-Line is wrong too. Stenavich, Lentz, and Massaquoi are seniors, Baas is 5th year, Riley is a junior, with the lone newbie being sophomore Jake Long (who is 6-7/335 and filling in for Kolodziej - the lone starting lineman who lost his job following the Notre Dame game). Michigan is SO loaded on the O-Line they have 3rd, 4th and 5th year all-americans on the 2-deep. That's over 120 starts for the current starting line - four of the six with more than 20 starts each when this season ends.
Screw Henne and Hart being freshmen, my grandmother could rush for 1000-yards behind this offensive line.
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I'll concede that, as I was unsure to begin with. I thought I heard somewhere that scUM's offensive line was all graduating (from last year), but I was too lazy to look it up.
As for the rest of it, however, I stand by my original points. Yeah, turnovers have hurt us...but if you think playcalling hasn't, you're on crack. Especially in this context of how it could hurt our recruiting (talking about Herbie's statements). I don't want to threadjack this into a discussion on playcalling and coaching, but understand, my comments which you referenced were aimed more towards recruiting than as to why we lost the games. Herbie has publicly stated that Tressel's conservative offense and playcalling will hurt TOSU's recruiting. My above comments were meant to say that I believe him, and agree with him. This offensive unit has the talent, they just have been (so far) forced to play with handcuffs.