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Old 11-17-2004, 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by gregorylee
Dude, take a pill. Herbie has always just called it like he sees it. This is no different, the same conversations (about offensive recruits) were being had on BN 2yrs ago. I wouldn't suppose you recognize the name Dewayne Jarret? Personally I don't think it matters, tOSU will get their share and no one gets them all.

Herbie is in a tough situation, and personally if I was Gieger I would've called him to clarify before I called him out in the media. I really don't think it is fair for anyone to question his loyalties to the university.

As far as this comment



[censored] you, how dare you presume to talk for "true Buckeyes". Speak for yourself. Just because he made some critisisms about the program does not mean he, or anybody else that cares enough to voice a constructive critisism does not love our great university.
Some criticisms?
Where you been on mars? Eat [censored] and live ass wipe. thats for the F-bomb.
YOU should learn the difference between constructive and destructive Herbies changed I wish i was wrong. But I will take one bit of your advice and speak for myself

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Originally Posted by FKAGobucks877
Who the [censored] are you? Herbie has done more for this program than you have, I'll guarantee that. And I've seen his excitement and support for the Buckeyes, on National TV no less. Anyone that questions that need only watch the 2002 Fiesta Bowl to see him 3 feet off the ground celebrating a good play by TOSU. This ignorant bull[censored] is just crazy talk. Herbie works for ESPN, and he does his job. It's what he's paid to do. He is never, EVER negative towards the program here - and before you have another hissie fit, please understand that constructive criticism is not negativity. If you don't agree that OSU's offense has sucked, then you're a flaming idiot. And yeah, the O has improved the last 3-4 games or so. But it's still in the bottom 20% of the NCAA, which just proves how bad it was to begin with.


I'll concede that, as I was unsure to begin with. I thought I heard somewhere that scUM's offensive line was all graduating (from last year), but I was too lazy to look it up.

As for the rest of it, however, I stand by my original points. Yeah, turnovers have hurt us...but if you think playcalling hasn't, you're on crack. Especially in this context of how it could hurt our recruiting (talking about Herbie's statements). I don't want to threadjack this into a discussion on playcalling and coaching, but understand, my comments which you referenced were aimed more towards recruiting than as to why we lost the games. Herbie has publicly stated that Tressel's conservative offense and playcalling will hurt TOSU's recruiting. My above comments were meant to say that I believe him, and agree with him. This offensive unit has the talent, they just have been (so far) forced to play with handcuffs.
I dont know about some of your coment's. True you may love the buckeyes as much as I do or not, but who said I did anything for the buckeyes ecept graduate from there. I said Tressel has done far far more that Herbsteit could ever do in his lifetime guy. Would you disagree because your on crack if so.

While coaching here as an assistant for Woody he learned Quite a lot about football, winning and a whole hell of alot more than you or I.
IF you dont know that this Offence is headed in the right direction than talk all you want about bottom 20 % or any other stats you can find. You forgot the most important stat WINs and losses though, sure this year we are young inexperienced and learning but were getting better. Thats what counts the most and theres no stat for that.
One more thing stay off the paint chips and drugs, it is impairing your judgement about our bucks.
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