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Best part is however vanilla our gameplan is, Ginn returning TDs will always be a threat. Heck, multiple times last year he blazed thru excellent kick coverage with little blocking.
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Old 07-15-2005, 07:06 AM
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pooch punt, that worked well MSU
Yeah, that was a good one for John L. to try... let's give Teddy a running start before he fields the punt. Brilliant!
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I think you will see more teams sacrificing punt yardage in favor of kicking it high and trying to force Teddy to make fair catches. scUM was doing a fairly decent job at this, until Finley tried to boot it over his head. Big mistake......
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It's late and my brain is a bit tired, but what were all the ways opposing teams tried prevent Ginn from running one back?

There was the old kick out of bounds and put your speed guys out there, like Edwards. What else was tried?
I remember some gusy trying to tackle Ginn... that didn't work so good.
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I think his best one was against Wiscy. He slipped through about 6 guys at once and broke free. Unreal.
Disagree, I think his best one was the Michigan one. What he did on the return was amazing. He was doomed. Didn't even think the ball was his, at first (But Holmes let it go over, if you recall) so he steps up and catches it, and next thing you know, he's steppin this way and that, and it's Vulvarine after Vulvarine and then... oh uh... left side.... jets.. gone.
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I think you will see more teams sacrificing punt yardage in favor of kicking it high and trying to force Teddy to make fair catches. scUM was doing a fairly decent job at this, until Finley tried to boot it over his head. Big mistake......
"Can Finley get an angle...forget about it. This baby's over."
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pooch punt, that worked well MSU
"Ted Ginn Jr. just cut through the Michigan State defense like mexican water on a first time tourist."

Possibly the best analogy I've ever heard.
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Gosh I loved that one. To keep the theme going:

"Ginn to the middle, great speed! Look out! They won't touch him... one man to beat... touchdown Ohio State. The electrifying #7." (Wisc PR td)
"He is so dangerous... daylight... look out... they can't catch him, nobody catches him unless you're a world class sprinter" (PSU PR td)
"Ginn rockets Michigan State's world." (WR td)
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I agree with hawkfan... Michigan's punts all had hangtimes around 4.5 seconds and they had guys near ginn. But Wisconsin, Mich St., Penn St. all had hangtimes in the 3's. I think teams are going to go for more hangtime to let their coverage guys get close to ginn so they have a better chance of not letting him break it.
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Honestly I think having the dual threats back there was one of the biggest during points for us in the season. Field position was huge for an offense that was struggling. Much and rightfully so the attention goes to Ginn, but Holmes can do some special things as well.
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Honestly I think having the dual threats back there was one of the biggest during points for us in the season. Field position was huge for an offense that was struggling. Much and rightfully so the attention goes to Ginn, but Holmes can do some special things as well.
yep, not only is holmes a viable return man. but he also throws some pretty good blocks back there. a couple of those ginn is dropped where he catches it if it isn't for holmes. the two man back conscept is a great idea. normally only one of the gunners is a factor, if you can get that one guy with one of your two return men... you practically spot yourself 10 yards. throw in ginn...

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yep, not only is holmes a viable return man. but he also throws some pretty good blocks back there. a couple of those ginn is dropped where he catches it if it isn't for holmes. the two man back conscept is a great idea. normally only one of the gunners is a factor, if you can get that one guy with one of your two return men... you practically spot yourself 10 yards. throw in ginn...

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Thumbs up Santonio Holmes....I believe

I believe that Santonio Holmes is under-appreciated by Buckeye fans (The Ginn Factor).
I believe that Santonio Holmes is the best receiver in the country.
I believe that Santonio Holmes is one of the top 5 WRs at OSU in the past 50 years.

After reviewing the 2004 season yesterday on tape, I can't believe that I didn't remember how consistently great he looked last year. His route running and body control were incredible. His ability to catch deep balls in tight quarters is stunning, not revealing the ball's position until the last second, and thus, not allowing the DB time to make a play on the ball. His speed after the catch is much better than his advertised speed out of high school, and I don't recall him ever being caught from behind when in stride. On top of all that, he's a great kid.

I believe that if we have a QB that can deliver, Santonio will have 70-75 catches at year's end, will be a 1st team All-American, and will be remembered with greats like Carter, Galloway, Glenn, Jenkins, Boston and Baschnagel. Personally, I'd take him over all of them except Cris Carter.

Years from now, I think people will be amazed that the 2005 Buckeyes had Holmes, Ginn, and Dukes on the same team. Get them the ball.

Let's appreciate him while we have him!

Go Bucks! Go Santonio!
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That's what is great about all the attention Ginn is getting. I know coaches are less likely to overlook a player, but I don't think it's wise to commit to stopping Ginn when the alternative is to have Holmes punk you.

I agree with your post. Holmes is the most talented "forgotten man" I can remember.
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And, with Ginn getting so much attention, he might just have some unusually good opportunities this year .
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