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Hubs, while I agree that underaged drinking isn't the crime of the century (hell, I was drinking when I was 16 and that was back when 18 year olds could get 3.2 beer), the point is that he's on a premier college football team, and his actions reflect poorly on that team, not just himself. F*cking up once is forgivable, but twice inside a month for the exact same offense is inexcusable. At minimum he needs to be suspended for pre-season practices.
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When is this crap going to end?
When the legal drinking age is 18, so that it's no longer considered "crap" is my guess.

Some of the people in an outrage are probably the same that complain about not allowing open containers and public urination on gamedays along Lane Ave. or next to the Horseshoe.

What do you guys think college kids do? Drink Pepsi and play Trivial Pursuit all night?

If JT didn't boot Arden for two DUI's, what makes you think he'll do anything serious to somebody with two underage drinking tickets?
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Some of the people in an outrage are probably the same that complain about not allowing open containers and public urination on gamedays along Lane Ave. or next to the Horseshoe.
Amen.
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When the legal drinking age is 18, so that it's no longer considered "crap" is my guess.

Some of the people in an outrage are probably the same that complain about not allowing open containers and public urination on gamedays along Lane Ave. or next to the Horseshoe.

What do you guys think college kids do? Drink Pepsi and play Trivial Pursuit all night?

If JT didn't boot Arden for two DUI's, what makes you think he'll do anything serious to somebody with two underage drinking tickets?
I think you're jumping to some conclusions CleveBucks. The "crap" I'm referring to the string of negative publicity that OSU seems to be going through. It seems as though we've had one incident after another for QUITE some time. And no I'm not in an outrage about open container OR public urination, thank you. But I'm am getting a bit tired of folks who can excuse everything that happens as simply "boys will be boys".
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ugh... i hate having this crap all over the news. when does foortball season start?
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I know the Columbus police couldn't have changed as much as South High has since I left in 1999. At every bar, Papa Joe's, Sloopy's, Maxwell's...all of them had the frequent walk-thru by a group of officers with their white shirts and hats. Every underage kid in the place would suddenly spill their drink...and a few would be lead out every night. Campus is notorious for being hard on the underage drinkers. AJ needs to use better sense than the normal student. The normal student is representing him/herself...an athlete on a schollie is an investment and a representative of the University. I agree that underage consumption is something we all probably did...but as long as a player is representing tOSU, they will be under the scrutiny that goes with that honor.
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I think you're jumping to some conclusions CleveBucks. The "crap" I'm referring to the string of negative publicity that OSU seems to be going through. It seems as though we've had one incident after another for QUITE some time. And no I'm not in an outrage about open container OR public urination, thank you. But I'm am getting a bit tired of folks who can excuse everything that happens as simply "boys will be boys".
First of all, I highly doubt OSU is getting any publicity out of this outside of Ohio. Do we ever hear when somebody from Miami, or USC, or Oklahoma, is ticketed for underage consumption? Hell no we don't. It's not even a newsworthy event unless you care about OSU football.

Secondly, I haven't seen a single person that excuses everything as "boys will be boys." I have yet to see somebody minimize or defend the actions of LI or IG. I have, however, seen many people defend Trapasso, and I am one of them. I have a hard time criticizing somebody for something I did literally hundreds of times in the past 4-5 years.

True, he was dumb for getting caught (as was I when I got caught a few times). He'll learn how not to get caught after a couple more months of college though.
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He'll learn how not to get caught after a couple more months of college though.
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Cleve, first let me say that I don't think Trapasso's mistakes are anywhere near some of the others (LI & IG). I'm just tired of the negative pub. This story is being carried by AT LEAST 15 regional/local news agencies outside of Columbus (as of noon today), and at least 1 national agency (CNN/SI). It is listed as one of their headline stories. So, yes it is being covered. If this was the only incident in the past month or two, no one would bat an eye. I doubt anyone other than local (central Ohio) media would even carry the story, but that is not the case.

I'm not attempting to throw Trapasso "under the bus". Just simply stating how tired I am of the continued negative press.


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First of all, I highly doubt OSU is getting any publicity out of this outside of Ohio. Do we ever hear when somebody from Miami, or USC, or Oklahoma, is ticketed for underage consumption? Hell no we don't. It's not even a newsworthy event unless you care about OSU football.

Secondly, I haven't seen a single person that excuses everything as "boys will be boys." I have yet to see somebody minimize or defend the actions of LI or IG. I have, however, seen many people defend Trapasso, and I am one of them. I have a hard time criticizing somebody for something I did literally hundreds of times in the past 4-5 years.

True, he was dumb for getting caught (as was I when I got caught a few times). He'll learn how not to get caught after a couple more months of college though.
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maybe we can take cue from Bowden and give him a Janikowski rule since he's a punter
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I agree 100% with you CLeve.
That's because you're a raging alcoholic
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I don't want him off the team because of underage drinking. I do want him off because he doesn't have a good learning curve. Anybody that can get caught for the same crime twice in four weeks is stupid. Do we need stupid players on the team? I must admit that I don't know how long it should have been between offenses, lol. Maybe he should be off the team simply because it was the same offense twice in less than a year. If he can't learn something as simple (and instintive?) as not getting caught by police, how will he learn what to do when there is real pressure.
Maybe he doesn't care, or have any personal pride. If so, how can he care about his team, or have pride in his team?
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People actually want him OFF THE TEAM? I mean, I can see having a more authoritarian/angry outlook then myself and some others, but that's a little draconian. It's not like this guys is beating people up or something. This is an extremeley minor offense, pay a fine and be done with it usually. He needs to make better choices certainly but kicking him off the team...well, I don't get it at all.
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Everyone else ran or spilled their beer when the cops ran up on em but he stayed put. Sounds like the kind of guy you want punting the ball to me.
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