DB Donald Washington III (Kansas City Chiefs)

[NavyBuck]

This whole Plan B stuff is really dependent on your frame of reference. Take a look at Robiskie. Viewed strictly from the perspective of when he got his OSU offer, it would be hard to argue he wasn't OSU's first choice for WR and therefore is a Plan B guy. OTOH, viewed from the perspective of the quality of the recruit, I can't see how anyone who had an offer from the Canes could truly be considered a second tier (AKA Plan B) guy. Put another way, if OSU suddenly offered Turner, the WR from Tennessee (who I don't think OSU has offered), would that be a Plan B offer? Or would than be a Plan B offer (because of timing) to a Plan A recruit (based on quality).

[tsteele316]

his rivals videos look pretty solid. his offer list isnt too bad either: osu, stanford, duke, ill, ind, kentucky, wiscy. purdue was hot after him until they got an early commit from greg orton, then they waited for lymon. florida was on him early until zooker got canned, and coincidentally, illinois has been after him hard.

[goodguy]

Originally Posted by NavyBuck

This whole Plan B stuff is really dependent on your frame of reference. Take a look at Robiskie. Viewed strictly from the perspective of when he got his OSU offer, it would be hard to argue he wasn't OSU's first choice for WR and therefore is a Plan B guy. OTOH, viewed from the perspective of the quality of the recruit, I can't see how anyone who had an offer from the Canes could truly be considered a second tier (AKA Plan B) guy. Put another way, if OSU suddenly offered Turner, the WR from Tennessee (who I don't think OSU has offered), would that be a Plan B offer? Or would than be a Plan B offer (because of timing) to a Plan A recruit (based on quality).

I think what he meant by plan B offers, are recruits that Buckeyes have been in contact with but haven't been offered a schollie. Citing Turner doesn't hold water because (please correct me if I'm wrong) the coaching staff has had little if any contact with Turner. You don't suddenly offer a kid that you have not been in contact with.

I know this is a touchy issue, because it brings the whole accusation of being a chicken little or the sky is falling freak. But let's face it Washington and Robiskie aren't the Bucks first choices. But then again neither was S. Holmes, he was a late offer as well. You never know.

[Buckeye737]

Originally Posted by goodguy

I think what he meant by plan B offers, are recruits that Buckeyes have been in contact with but haven't been offered a schollie. Citing Turner doesn't hold water because (please correct me if I'm wrong) the coaching staff has had little if any contact with Turner. You don't suddenly offer a kid that you have not been in contact with.

I know this is a touchy issue, because it brings the whole accusation of being a chicken little or the sky is falling freak. But let's face it Washington and Robiskie aren't the Bucks first choices. But then again neither was S. Holmes, he was a late offer as well. You never know.

Three years ago, I was just starting to follow recruiting and I was [censored]ed when the Buckeyes took Santonio - ranked as the 17th best receiver in the state of Florida that year. I figured the coaches should just bank the schollie and get somebody who wasn't a "plan B" guy the next year. Thank God I wasn't the one making the decision on Santonio.

[LordJeffBuck]

Other recent "Plan B" Buckeye recruits are:

Class of 2004
Dennis Kennedy - visited 1/16/2004; never made it into school
Curtis Terry - visited 1/30/2004; played as a true freshman

Class of 2003
Marcel Frost - visited 1/28/2003; most think that he is a potential star

Class of 2002
Santonio Holmes - visitied 1/25/2002; superstar
Troy Smith - visited 1/25/2002; star in the making (if he stays eligible...)
Brandon Mitchell - visited 1/25/2002; valuable contributor
Nate Salley - visited 1/17/2002; star in the making

Other late offerees include Chris Gamble (superstar), Donnie Nickey (star), and Mike Nugent (superstar).

So, it looks like OSU has done fairly well with late offerees, although I will admit that many of them were offered late because of academic issues (Smith, Frost, Terry, Kennedy, Gamble), and not because of talent issues. Obviously, both Robiskie and Washington have strong academic resume`s, so grades are not an issue with them.

[MililaniBuckeye]

Originally Posted by gobucks19

I did read on the BN Recruiting board that Petrey was officially asked to delay his enrollment until Jan 06 because Huston got his 6th year.

The problem is that you read it on Bucknuts.

Originally Posted by goodguy

No, no you can't count on Huston's sixth year til it's official, ask Mililani. You just don't know what the NCAA will do

That's 100% correct, smart-aleck...you don't know what the NCAA will decide.

[tundra1]

Originally Posted by goodguy

I think what he meant by plan B offers, are recruits that Buckeyes have been in contact with but haven't been offered a schollie.

Remember one other thing about "Plan B" guys this year. According to ex-Coach Conley himself, this year we seem to be more discriminate in giving offers, and are in on fewer recruits than we usually are.

In previous years, recruits like Washington probably would have been offered months ago (i.e. a "Plan A" recruit). Just because this year, with the more targeted recruiting strategy, he didn't get an offer until later doesn't mean that he's any worse than the typical "Plan A" recruit we looked at a couple of years ago.

[tsteele316]

one "plan B" kid has offers from miami, UF, and Stanford.

the other has offers from wiscy, stanford, ill, ind, kentucky etc...

had zook not been fired form UF, they would have offered as well.

if this is a fallback, then osu is doing pretty well for itself.

[Buckeyecty4]

Personally, I would have offered Washington and Robiskie before McCarthy but that's just my personal opinion. I've been a big advocate of DW getting an offer since his name first came out 6-7 months ago. That kid is a bigtime athlete who just needs to be coached up. As for Robiskie, with the offers he has in hand from Coker, Meyer, and Walt Harris, and now Tressel, I wouldnt mind seeing him come aboard. He is also a very bright young man and is the son of a coach. I like that. I think both of these guys would be solid additions, especially Washington.

[Oh8ch]

Just for the record I don't mean to sound like I am denigrating these kids by calling them 'Plan B'. I am only using that in refrence to OSUs recruiting strategy. Robiskie himself said that OSU was open with him that they had other prospects ahead of him and any offer was dependent on how that worked out - thus 'Plan B'.

My original comment was simply a suggest what OSU's strategy might be. That they may not be planning on taking both of these kids but were inviting both for visits to increase their chances of getting at least one. That is in fact the approach that is taken with most kids throughout the year - they extend many more offers than they have ships.

[Highstreet]

Scout $
DW3 says tOSU leads solidly over Illinois and Indiana. DW3 will likely Verbal on his visit to C-Bus.

[brutus2002]

Donald won the Indiana State Championship in the Long Jump his Sophomore year he was the first person in their state history to do that.

IMO we are getting a raw athlete that can be fine tuned and be one heck of a talent. This is by no means plan "B" nor is it a stretch. IMO in a few years people in the B10 are gonna look back and say "WOW we missed him"

[LordJeffBuck]

Donald won the Indiana State Championship in the Long Jump his Sophomore year he was the first person in their state history to do that.

He also won it as a junior.

[brutus2002]

He also defeated Selwyn Lymon for last years state title. I guess he has flirted with 24'...that pretty damn good anywhere.

[osugrad21]

Scout $

With a visit scheduled for this weekend, Donald says tOSU has a solid lead over all of his other schools.

"I'm almost positive that I'm going there, and I'll probably make my commitment to them while I'm on my official visit.

He would prefer to play offense, but will play wherever the coaches decide. Donald mentioned he likes the way tOSU gets the ball to their athletes. He was very complimentary of the other programs that showed him interest, but tOSU's tradition, coaches, and academics are the point of separation.