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Old 03-28-2005, 12:07 PM
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I'm sure this is a court ordered probation. This must mean that he copped to something, but it just depends on what that something is.

Whatever the case, a three month probation seems about as close to a slap on the wrist as you can get.

My interpretation of this just what others have said. Mom got mad when Albert didn't pay enough attention to her daughter so she re-filed the charges that she previously dropped. This whole thing was bull[censored].

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tsteele pretty much nailed it....

and HH has given me the real facts of what the situation was and ....(imo) any further punishment of Albert would have been extreme....

dukes at least has the ball in his court now, and if he works really hard, make up for the lost time....
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Old 03-28-2005, 12:17 PM
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Welcome back, AD! We were all pulling for you and are excited about your future now that you're back where you belong.

Unfortunately, you now know what it feels like to be separated from your team and forced to put your dreams on hold. But you can use that experience in a very positive way, if you 'keep your eye on the prize' for the rest of your college career. Follow JT's rules to the letter; work your butt off in practice; study hard; and enjoy the fruits of attending a great university and playing for the finest program in college football.

We're glad you're back, AD. Don't leave us again until you're an All-American wearing a National Championship ring.
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Old 03-28-2005, 12:22 PM
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If this situation was something totally heinous, I doubt the girl's mom would have dropped the charges twice. That said, I hope Albert realizes he just got a big break, and applies himself to academics and football diligently.
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Old 03-28-2005, 12:26 PM
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Not all plea bargains require that the defendant enter a "guilty" verdict. Some do, some do not, all depending on the prosecutor and how the attorney's office handles such crimes.

You can't just assume he had to plead guilty to get probation. I was never found guilty of anything, yet I was on probation for a year... in fact I never stepped foot in front of the judge. But I still had a PO. (Albeit I never had to see her except the once)
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Not all plea bargains require that the defendant enter a "guilty" verdict. Some do, some do not, all depending on the prosecutor and how the attorney's office handles such crimes.

You can't just assume he had to plead guilty to get probation. I was never found guilty of anything, yet I was on probation for a year... in fact I never stepped foot in front of the judge. But I still had a PO. (Albeit I never had to see her except the once)
You have to plead guilty or no contest to get any punishment from the court. You cannot plea not guilty, never go to court, and get put on probation. When you take a plea bargain, you are admitting to the charge, even if it is a lesser one than what you were originally charged with. Nobody can walk into court, plead not guilty, never go before a judge, and get put on probation. Trust me, this is what I do for a living.
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What tsteele said is absolutely correct.

HH has been saying for the past couple weeks they have been trying to reach an agreement of a lesser charge, but he said that the prosecutor was being a being bullheaded and wanted nothing to do with it. Looks like he finally came around.

On the other hand this is great news and I can't wait to see him in the spring. Even Fox said in his chat with bn that he is very hard to cover.
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Welcome back, AD! We were all pulling for you and are excited about your future now that you're back where you belong.

Unfortunately, you now know what it feels like to be separated from your team and forced to put your dreams on hold. But you can use that experience in a very positive way, if you 'keep your eye on the prize' for the rest of your college career. Follow JT's rules to the letter; work your butt off in practice; study hard; and enjoy the fruits of attending a great university and playing for the finest program in college football.

We're glad you're back, AD. Don't leave us again until you're an All-American wearing a National Championship ring.
Bingo!
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Thats good news for AD! I'm really excited for him, and I've read from someone onthe buckeyes web sites that he IS better than Holmes was when he was a freshman.... so only time will tell but I'm excited for the guys future
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There was an agreement made to a lesser charge involving a minor. He will get a few months probation.

The real turning point was that we were able to get the mother to come into the prosecutors office on Thursday and convince them that she would not help their case in any way, and that she probably didn't see what she thought she saw.

This caught everyone off guard as she was the one who originally was pushing for a re-file of the charges.

I believe JT has let him back on the team. He should have left last night for Cols.
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excellent news. thanks HH.
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thanks for the update HH...hope he gets right back in to the receiver mix.
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Didn't this happen before he ever came to tOSU?
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Of course, if Dukes played for scUM or scUM south we'd all be laughing at them for accepting a rapist into their program. Yep, college football fans are anything except hypocritical.
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Originally Posted by tibor75
Of course, if Dukes played for scUM or scUM south we'd all be laughing at them for accepting a rapist into their program. Yep, college football fans are anything except hypocritical.
Speaking of hypocritical...
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