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Old 07-20-2005, 04:57 PM
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I don't understand why the reason he skipped class in this case is a big deal.
This is why:

Article 12.5.1.1 deals with promotional activities. <!--EZCODE BOLD START-->At the very least, Smith violated condition (d)<!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, which grants permission to attend a camp or outreach program so long as the student-athlete does not miss class, <!--EZCODE BOLD START-->and condition (a)<!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, which requires written permission from the athletic director or designated coach to attend the camp.

I'm not saying I agree with all of the NCAA's rules, but like it or not, our players are bound by them. The sad part is, this could've all been avoided by one simple act - "Coach, I was invited to participate in a camp for a charity, is this okay?" It's not as though players do these things 5 times a week.
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Racist? This is coming from a guy who doctored (pardon the pun) his avatar to include a turban.
so a turban makes me a terrorist?
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The story has made the national media services now:

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Ohio State investigates quarterback for possible rules violation

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Ohio State is investigating whether quarterback Troy Smith broke another NCAA rule when he attended a football camp sponsored by Tennessee Titans quarterback Steve McNair this summer.
Athletic department spokesman Steve Snapp said Wednesday that the school's compliance office is investigating Smith's attendance at the camp. Snapp wouldn't say whether Smith violated any rule.

NCAA rules allow players to attend educational or charitable activities as long as they don't miss class and have written permission from the school's athletic director.

The rules also prohibit players from lending their names or images to commercial products that appear on promotional materials for these events, and any money from these appearances must go to the educational or charitable agency.

McNair holds annual camps in Nashville, Tenn., and Alcorn, Miss., where he played college football at Alcorn State. It's unclear which camp Smith attended.

Last year, Ohio State suspended Smith from the Alamo Bowl for accepting about $500 from a team booster. The NCAA also suspended him for the Alamo Bowl along with the 2005 season opener against Miami (Ohio).

Smith's status for the rest of the upcoming season hasn't changed, Snapp said.

A message seeking comment was left with the NCAA.

Contacted by phone at her Cleveland house, Smith's mother, Tracy Smith, declined comment.

Smith's transgression with the booster was one of nine charges levied by the NCAA against Ohio State in May. Seven involved the men's basketball program.

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McNair holds annual camps in Nashville, Tenn., and Alcorn, Miss., where he played college football at Alcorn State. It's unclear which camp Smith attended.
Damn... the AP outresearched by Tibor.
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Hey, Tibor's good at searching. It takes some pretty fierce scavenging to find a goat that's willing to push back for a guy like him.
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SGN sent out a PM to the premium subscribers about a month ago, saying a player might have committed an NCAA violation... and that they would say more when they could. Greg had heard rumblings about Troy, looks like he was right.

While this is not a serious offense, doesn't it change the ballgame a little that he's still serving his suspension and probably on probation?
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Let me guess, you like wearing white sheets and lynching people too, right?

Well Tibs, statements like that and a quarter will get you a cup of coffee. I bet you got really mad when that rug got [censored]ed all over in the Big Lebowski too! Some of your families best work, making that rug.


BTW, the 000002 pts that ding took from my rep hurt me really really bad.
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I bet you got really mad when that rug got [censored]ed all over in the Big Lebowski too!
That rug really tied the room together.
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Wow, just got home from vacation to this madness. And I thought the people in line at Kings Island were angry.....


I hope this is a communication problem between the compliance office and Troy's higher ups...otherwise, this speaks worlds about Troy's character and learning ability. I am his biggest supporter, but we all know that these guys volunteer at these camps with the main reason for going being to meet and learn from Steve McNair. I completely understand this, but I hope he jumped through all the right hoops before he did it.
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Listening to 1460 The Fan and they are saying that 'OSU officals are very confident he will not miss the Texas game.'

Herbie was on and talked up Smith over and over saying that he has heard from the players that he is the far better 'leader.' Says all the team still loves him, which is a special quility.

Herbie and the other guy is talking up his charactor too saying they have honor of knowing him personally, and are vouching he is a great guy.

http://www.1460thefan.com/tf.php?sto...liveplayer.php

Taking calls from the fans currently.
I'm outside the 1460 DeFan listening area.

Recognize and respect them as a generally authoritative source on Buckeye matters.
Thanks for passing that on Wrestler -- best news I've had all day, a little ray of hope?
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This doesn't speak to anything about his character or learning ability. It speaks to his ability to inform the AD about volunteering at a football camp.
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Hey, Tibor's good at searching. It takes some pretty fierce scavenging to find a goat that's willing to push back for a guy like him.

Remember my LloydSev work...
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I'm outside the 1460 DeFan listening area.

Recognize and respect them as a generally authoritative source on Buckeye matters.
Thanks for passing that on Wrestler -- best news I've had all day, a little ray of hope?
click on the link... 1460 broadcasts on the internet; if you can post on this site, you can listen to The Fan...
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click on the link... 1460 broadcasts on the internet; if you can post on this site, you can listen to The Fan...
Not at my place of work I can't

I'll get on my broadband when I get home
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