QB Troy Smith - 2006 Heisman Winner - (Baltimore Ravens)

[MililaniBuckeye]

Originally Posted by OhioExile

I will miss his big plays but it looks like we got rid of him at just the right time for the University's sake...with all of the trouble he has been getting into. He was making me pretty nervous last year showing up to some of Tressels speaking engagements in flashy high dollar suits and stuff. The NCAA, I feel is still hiding in the bushes waiting for a mis-step. I hope he gets his [censored] together soon....for his sake.

Uh, we didn't "get rid of" Santonio...he left early to pursue his new career. A suit can be flashy and not be all that expensive. His recent troubles have come as a result of being in places/situations he would not have otherwise been in had he not left OSU, and thus would have been no problems to us had he stayed.

[Hubbard]

Originally Posted by Popper252

Watching all these videos makes me realize how much we're gonna miss Santonio.

After watching the video I was coming on to post that verbatim. He was damn good.

[Bob Buck]

Originally Posted by Hubbard

After watching the video I was coming on to post that verbatim. He was damn good.

Holmes had to first get the ball. Don't forget Troy Smith's cannon for an arm.

[pianobuck46]

Originally Posted by Bob Buck

Holmes had to first get the ball. Don't forget Troy Smith's cannon for an arm.

Holmes was great, no doubt. Agree on Smith, though. With Ginn, Gonzo, Hartline, Robiskie, and now Small.....well, how bad can it be?

[OhioExile]

Originally Posted by MililaniBuckeye

Uh, we didn't "get rid of" Santonio...he left early to pursue his new career. A suit can be flashy and not be all that expensive. His recent troubles have come as a result of being in places/situations he would not have otherwise been in had he not left OSU, and thus would have been no problems to us had he stayed.

I'm sorry you took my comment the wrong way, I didn't think it would be under a microscope talking about past or present tense. I am just a bit on edge of the things that have taken place lately. Any distraction to this team in a year with NC chances....legitimate chances for immortality would be horrible! As far as places he would be, I'm sure he would be hanging around sometimes with his kids mother.

We both could argue about what would have or might have taken place on campus. I'm glad that distration is away from us no matter how many TD Holmes would have scored for us.

[Pheasant]

Originally Posted by OhioExile

I'm sorry you took my comment the wrong way, I didn't think it would be under a microscope talking about past or present tense. I am just a bit on edge of the things that have taken place lately. Any distraction to this team in a year with NC chances....legitimate chances for immortality would be horrible! As far as places he would be, I'm sure he would be hanging around sometimes with his kids mother.

We both could argue about what would have or might have taken place on campus. I'm glad that distration is away from us no matter how many TD Holmes would have scored for us.

Yeah, Holmes was such a distraction when he was here

[Buckin Crazy]

Holmes was the big passing threat, were as ginn made most of his big plays on kcik/punt returns. But I really think Gonzo will step up, this man is crazy, he reminds me of joe juravicious. Im not sure if anyone showed my video yet but here it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhDt7...h=Troy%20Smith
(probobly most of the same plays you already seen since we got it from the same source)
But by years end, I plan on making a kick ass video with even more Troy Smith plays(I plan on getting the whole games to get all of his awsomeness) plus I plan on getting good with some new programs to make them more injoyable.

[jwinslow]

Originally Posted by OhioExile

We both could argue about what would have or might have taken place on campus. I'm glad that distration is away from us no matter how many TD Holmes would have scored for us.

why even bring up such negativity about santonio, especially in a thread about Smith?

[OhioExile]

If you go back and read some of the previous posts in the thread you would see Y we are talking about Holmes. There were no distractions by him when he was on campus...and he was a great Buckeye. I wonder if someone can take a phrase out of this reply and have a problem with it.

Yeah, Holmes was such a distraction when he was here

I thought I said I was happy those distractions where else where and not here...


As far as bringing up negativity....if you forget about it you are doomed to repeat it.

[Brutus1]

Originally Posted by wadc45

Ask CFN

How can Andrew Walter be #4 when he plays for the Oakland Raiders?

[BuckeyeNation27]

Originally Posted by Brutus1

How can Andrew Walter be #4 when he plays for the Oakland Raiders?

Looks like they already fixed it.

[jwinslow]

Originally Posted by OhioExile

As far as bringing up negativity....if you forget about it you are doomed to repeat it.

ah yes, since BP is really in charge of keeping the program on the straight and narrow. You might want to wait until the full story comes out before you trash Holmes.

[UTMNC]

You have to admire any college athlete, especially those like T. Smith who's aspirations for a professional career are almost a certainty, do what it takes to earn their degree, either during the course of their tenure at a University, or even after turning Pro. It's good to see a young person who's had a little trouble, turn it around and take advantage of the opportunity a scholarship provided and be a positive role model. Hats off to T. Smith.

[OhioExile]

Originally Posted by jwinslow

ah yes, since BP is really in charge of keeping the program on the straight and narrow. You might want to wait until the full story comes out before you trash Holmes.

I would like to see the quote where I trash Holmes. So much sand around here.

He wore an flashy suit to a few Tressel speaking engagements. I'm glad his problems have taken place outside the program.

Smiths cannon of an arm should keep us in most games. We will find out who the big play reciever is to replace Holmes as the season wears on. I hope Teddy's routes are run a bit more crisply this year, so he can get the ball in space with the opertunity to make a play. I hope these opinions of Teddy aren't taken as a trashing of his character. GEEZ!

[DaddyBigBucks]

In yesterday's installment of Deety's Daily Stat Break, I closed by stating that I believe we can expect more out of Troy Smith this year. I had provided some support for that statement in the post, but I believe more support is necessary for a statement that bold.

I have already shown that QB's with a high rating like Troy's are more than likely to show a decrease the following year unless they are backed up by a healthy (or better: improving) running game. Now let's compare Troy to the other QB's who showed significant improvement as Juniors.

I chose to limit the discussion to QBs that showed a 10 point efficiency increase from their Sophomore to Junior year. This doesn't exactly compare to Troy's 28.5 point increase, but like I said before; only Byron Leftwich compares to Troy in this respect. Not exactly a huge data set.

There were 11 Quarterbacks to choose from. The average change in efficiency rating as Seniors was -1.66. In other words, on the whole, those in this group did a little worse as Seniors than they did as Juniors. These results were skewed by the one QB who did significantly better than everyone else, but I'll get to that later. Here is the list:

• Casey Printers of Texas Christian University
  • Junior Improvement - 23.2
  • Senior Improvement - -31.3
    • LT left TCU after Casey's Junior year. 'nuff said
• Matt Jones of Arkansas
  • Junior Improvement - 22.1
  • Senior Improvement - -14.3
    • Cedric Cobb left Arkansas after Matt's Junior year.
    • Arkansas ran the ball almost 6 fewer times per game
    • Opponents presumably were able to key more on the pass
• Reggie McNeal of Texas A&M
  • Junior Improvement - 12.9
  • Senior Improvement - -8.8
    • Courtney Lewis was not healthy all year, had fewer rushes in the games he did play
    • Reggie himself was a little banged up
• Charlie Frye of Akron
• • Junior Improvement - 12.1
  • Senior Improvement - -8.8
    • Akron focused more on passing in '04, which led to the same focus by opposing defenses
• Byron Leftwich of Marshall
  • Junior Improvement - 30.6
  • Senior Improvement - -8.1
    • Marshall's average running game in '01 was anemic in '02; thus allowing defenses to focus on Byron.
• Matt Schaub of Virginia
  • Junior Improvement - 28.7
  • Senior Improvement - -6.5
    • Virginia didn't have much running game either year
    • Defenses were free to focus on passing game
• Casey Bramlet of Wyoming
  • Junior Improvement - 19.2
  • Senior Improvement - 1
    • Bramlet's increase seems to be most attributable to his senior receivers - no running game either year
• Kliff Kingsbury of Texas Tech
  • Junior Improvement - 20.0
  • Senior Improvement - 6.8
    • Do you remember 2001 when there were two runningbacks by the name of Ricky Williams in Texas? One was a longhorn (do I hear a bong bubbling somewhere?), the other was a Red Raider. Do you know what happened to the one that played at Texas Tech? Yeah, me either. It seems he was purely a product of the system, because in the year without him; Texas Tech ran the ball more and for more yards per carry. This explains the concomitant increase in KK's passing efficiency.
• Rasheed Marshall of West Virginia
  • Junior Improvement - 20.1
  • Senior Improvement - 9.6
    • The emergence of Kay-Jay Harris explains the increase in Rasheed's senior year. He gained .8 yards per carry more than the previous year's top rusher for WVU.
• Casey Kelly of New Mexico
  • Junior Improvement - 12.9
  • Senior Improvement - 12.9
    • DonTrell Moore's emergence helped Mr. Kelly immensely. DonTrell carried the ball almost 2.5 more times per game and gained about .7 more yards per carry in his Sophomore campaign, forcing opposing defenses to focus on the Lobos running game.
• Drew Olson of UCLA
  • Junior Improvement - 21.1
  • Senior Improvement - 29.2
    • This is the case that should be of most interest to Buckeye fans...
    • Maurice Drew had a big Sophomore season.
    • Defenses focused on Maurice, holding him to 1.4 fewer yards per carry.
    • Drew Olson therefore emerged as one of the top QBs in a QB rich conference.

So to sum up, having a good running game is key. Having a running game that is improved dramatically the previous year is a big bonus. The QB that had this to the highest degree was Drew Olson; and his situation is very similar to that of Troy Smith. A Junior RunningBack who had a big Sophomore campaign behind him and one of the top O-lines in the conference by the testimony of all the "experts"; Troy might be bound for a great season. Throw in Chris Wells and another year in the weight room on Maurice Wells and Eric Haw, and this could be a season for the history books (and not just OSU's history books).

All Hail the Glory of Troy Smith