QB Troy Smith - 2006 Heisman Winner (Official Thread)

[leroyjenkins]

Originally Posted by Viking

All very valid points, but one thing that losing the quarterback competition did 'screw' him out of was his shot at the NFL. The only quarterback I can think of who made it to the NFL without playing in college is Matt Cassel. Zwick was picked up by the Panthers, didn't even make the practice squad (purely a camp arm), and didn't get a shot with another team. Considering the Smith is about to enter his second season in the NFL with a real chance of being a starter, I'd say that the body of work he was able to compile in college, which enabled to earn a real chance on an NFL team (emphasis on real), was hugely important to his current status. From a more panoramic perspective I understand what you are saying, but looking at it purely as an NFL prospect, yes, Zwick was essentially screwed.

Wasnt AJ Feeley, Joey Harrington's back-up?

Originally Posted by OCBucksFan

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[BuckeyeNation27]

Originally Posted by Viking

All very valid points, but one thing that losing the quarterback competition did 'screw' him out of was his shot at the NFL. The only quarterback I can think of who made it to the NFL without playing in college is Matt Cassel. Zwick was picked up by the Panthers, didn't even make the practice squad (purely a camp arm), and didn't get a shot with another team. Considering the Smith is about to enter his second season in the NFL with a real chance of being a starter, I'd say that the body of work he was able to compile in college, which enabled to earn a real chance on an NFL team (emphasis on real), was hugely important to his current status. From a more panoramic perspective I understand what you are saying, but looking at it purely as an NFL prospect, yes, Zwick was essentially screwed.

I got screwed, too. Where the hell is my NFL contract, Tressel?

[Born Buckeye]

Originally Posted by Viking

All very valid points, but one thing that losing the quarterback competition did 'screw' him out of was his shot at the NFL. The only quarterback I can think of who made it to the NFL without playing in college is Matt Cassel. Zwick was picked up by the Panthers, didn't even make the practice squad (purely a camp arm), and didn't get a shot with another team. Considering the Smith is about to enter his second season in the NFL with a real chance of being a starter, I'd say that the body of work he was able to compile in college, which enabled to earn a real chance on an NFL team (emphasis on real), was hugely important to his current status. From a more panoramic perspective I understand what you are saying, but looking at it purely as an NFL prospect, yes, Zwick was essentially screwed.

Not sure if I can agree on Zwick missing out (being screwed) on anything NFL related. tOSU is a top tier program that sends alot of people to the NFL, but you still have to compete to win a starting job. Zwick competed well enough to be a starter for a while, but eventually it became very clear that Troy was a much better player and leader. As with any team the starters get more attention and exposure, thus are more likely to go to the NFL. I guess it could be debated that had Zwick gone to a different program that he could have started and received more exposure but I honestly think he would have had to compete for a starting job there as well. He is a good player, a great Buckeye but I did not see him as a next level player. Troy on the other hand - will work as much as it takes to make himself a starter at any level, and plays with a swagger that makes him a great leader.

Go Bucks!

[generaladm]

I would say that Zwick's performance on the field screwed him more than anything else. Zwick should have been replaced before he got injured. He was simply the 2nd best QB on the roster. The only way that he got screwed by the situation is that he didn't get a second chance. He actually did get a second chance with Smith's suspension, but failed to capitalize. In a way, Zwick's demotion could have saved his reputation. What if he had gone on to lose 4 more games, including UM? He would have been labeled the second coming of S. Bellisari and vilified at every turn. The way it worked out, he is remembered as a good kid and a decent player who just didn't pan out. It's hard to say someone got screwed out of a spot when they lost to NW.

[bukIpower]

I thought the same thing.. I was PLEADING for tressel to put in smith in 04' and I dunno why but I knew there was something about Troy. I will happily gloat about this but I called it when I saw Troy play in junk time against Iowa. I said he'd do great things at OSU and he'd end up being one of our best QB's. The way he looked so confident out on the field you could just tell he was in controll.

Justin would've started the rest of the year had he stayed upright so maybe you're right.. maybe it was a good thing he had to come out.

[SEREbuckeye]

Wow...a picture of a HUUUUUGE burger was posted and noone has ripped on Charlie Weis?! Im schocked!

Fine, Ill start it out.

Friggin burger looks like Charlie Weis's bed-time snack.

[DaddyBigBucks]

CFN Asks: 5 best players...

- The five best players since you?ve been covering college football.Teddy Greenstein: Reggie Bush, Troy Smith, Michael Robinson, Rashard Mendenhall, Mike Noooogent.