QB Troy Smith - 2006 Heisman Winner (Official Thread)

[mross34]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeNation27

because drew brees is the exception that's proven it on a field full of NFL talent for years?

I just don't remember much hullaballoo about Brees being too short when he came into the league.

[NFBuck]

Originally Posted by mross34

I just don't remember much hullaballoo about Brees being too short when he came into the league.

There was. He was a monster at Purdue and would have been a Top-10, if not Top-5, pick if he were 2-3 inches taller.

[buckeyes_rock]

Originally Posted by NFBuck

There was. He was a monster at Purdue and would have been a Top-10, if not Top-5, pick if he were 2-3 inches taller.

Yeah, but even still, he was the first pick of the 2nd round...he didn't fall off the map like Troy did.

I'm sure there were a lot of factors in Troy's fall in the draft. But I seem to remember some announcer talking about how Troy looked better than Brady Quinn in the Buckeye's demolishing of Notre Dame. And that if the draft were that day, Troy would/should go ahead of BQ. I can't help but wonder where Troy would've been drafted if the scUM game was the last game the scouts saw him play in college.

Oh well, who knows...but Troy does have a wonderful opportunity in Baltimore. I can't wait to see him start the season!

[NFBuck]

Originally Posted by buckeyes_rock

Yeah, but even still, he was the first pick of the 2nd round...he didn't fall off the map like Troy did.

True, but Troy was coming off the worst game of his career and didn't wow anybody at the combine.

I'm sure there were a lot of factors in Troy's fall in the draft. But I seem to remember some announcer talking about how Troy looked better than Brady Quinn in the Buckeye's demolishing of Notre Dame. And that if the draft were that day, Troy would/should go ahead of BQ.

I doubt Troy would've ever gone before BQ. Quinn has a prototype NFL body and looked good enough in the combine. Even had Troy put up big combine numbers, I still think his height would've caused him to slip out of the 1st round.

I can't help but wonder where Troy would've been drafted if the scUM game was the last game the scouts saw him play in college.

I distinctly remember Herbie touting him as a top-ten pick after that performance, but you gotta remember, NFL GM's love height in a QB and Troy (IIRC) barely measured in at 6'0. Given his reaction and apparent motivation following his Heisman win, falling in the draft and having doubters in his ear may have ended up being the best thing for him. A motivated TS is as dangerous a player as I've seen.

Oh well, who knows...but Troy does have a wonderful opportunity in Baltimore. I can't wait to see him start the season!

Absolutely. I just hope the ratbirds give him the chance to shine.

[billmac91]

Originally Posted by buckeyes_rock

Yeah, but even still, he was the first pick of the 2nd round...he didn't fall off the map like Troy did.

I'm sure there were a lot of factors in Troy's fall in the draft. But I seem to remember some announcer talking about how Troy looked better than Brady Quinn in the Buckeye's demolishing of Notre Dame. And that if the draft were that day, Troy would/should go ahead of BQ. I can't help but wonder where Troy would've been drafted if the scUM game was the last game the scouts saw him play in college.

Oh well, who knows...but Troy does have a wonderful opportunity in Baltimore. I can't wait to see him start the season!

Kirk Herbstreit said the Browns should take Troy at #3 leading into the Championship game. Troy was WITHOUT A DOUBT a first round pick beofre the championship game.

Then everyone said he had never seen a good defense, he wasn't as elusive as previously thought, his work ethic was soft b/c of the Heisman circuit, etc.

100% certain, if OSU plays well against UF, Troy is a first round pick and he's a guaranteed starter this year. That game cost him millions. The good thing for Troy is he has an amazing work ethic and an amazing capability of geting his teammates behind him. I don't doubt for a second Joe Flacco will start at some point early this season, but if he isn;t doing a good job, the players will start making public comments in support of Troy.

I've flip-flopped several times on whether or not Troy will start this year, and I'm thinking they go with Flacco very early now. They built Troy up in the off-season, but as it gets closer to the season coaches begin to sweat out final decesions and going with Flacco eases the pressure of a bad year. A rookie QB takes all of the headlines, not the terrible record. I think Troy buils solid reputation with the Ravens during his tenure and will nake a name somewhere else once his contract is up.

Plus the Ravens don't want a BQ/DA battle going on. We like it as fans but it is a GM nightmare. The Ravens organization want every reason possible to allow Flacco to play without presssure.

[mercer_buckeye]

Originally Posted by billmac91

Troy was WITHOUT A DOUBT a first round pick before the championship game.

NO HE WASN'T!!

I love Troy but no team in their right mind would have ever drafted him in the first round. The story I remember about the Browns was take a linemen in the first round and grab Troy in the second.

[NFBuck]

Originally Posted by billmac91

Kirk Herbstreit said the Browns should take Troy at #3 leading into the Championship game. Troy was WITHOUT A DOUBT a first round pick beofre the championship game.

I remember him saying that as well. But I wouldn't say "without a doubt". He'd cetainly be in a better position fo that to happen, but I still believe that his height would've played a factor. Plus he had a poor combine. It's all speculation though because we don't know how he would've done had he been as motivated as he was going into the 2006 season.

I don't doubt for a second Joe Flacco will start at some point early this season, but if he isn;t doing a good job, the players will start making public comments in support of Troy