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12-21-2004, 12:55 PM
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i think he ment j schottenstein... do you have facts megawoody??? or all hearsay and conjecture
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12-21-2004, 01:03 PM
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Immediate family is defined as parents, siblings, and spouses....the NCAA doesn't do anything to athletes that accept something from other family members with whom they've had a relationship with before they enter college. Troy must have accepted something large from a distant family member for this to get where it is...if this was from a family member.
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12-21-2004, 01:12 PM
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Could be one of those "aunts" or "uncles" that are simply family friends and not blood relatives.
But couldn't Lebron buy Sian Cotton a car and there not be a problem since they were friends from childhood? I'm not sure on that rule.
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12-21-2004, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jimotis4heisman
i think he ment j schottenstein... do you have facts megawoody??? or all hearsay and conjecture
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That WAS my point, yes 
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12-21-2004, 01:19 PM
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aunts or uncles can buy gifts, they just can't get crazy about it. Athletes are told that if there is any question, go ask a coach. NCAA defines it as immediate family only, but there is leniancy...to an extent.
The rule on "friends" is, you have to have a relationship with that person before you ever set foot on a college campus. You cannot participate in recruiting, etc...if you give any money to the university, you cannot give money to an athlete regardless of your relationship with him. If you are considered one of those friends before you ever went to college, you can pretty much give that person whatever you want as long as that person stays away from the university.
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12-21-2004, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MegaWoody
It's hard to lay blame on the coach when one of the biggest booster-offenders has the same last name as the basketball arena.
The specifics of the Troy Smith story notwithstanding, there is enormous temptation for all Buckeye athletes when very wealthy, well-connected and catered-to boosters facilitate the rules violations.
Law-abiding Buckeye boosters need to self-police the program by calling out the scumbags and shunning them from the program.
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MegaWoody:
The un-named subject of the first sentence would make the laudable goal of the third sentence kind of difficult to enforce don't you think?
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12-21-2004, 02:14 PM
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I'm sorry, but if he violated NCAA rules then I think he needs to be kicked off the team. He can remain in school, but his time on the team needs ended. OSU football is much bigger than Troy Smith.
Here's a scenerio, you work as an auditor, and a new employee, straight out of college (22yrs old) is found to be violating firm policy, what would happen? He would probably be reprimanded. If the employee also violated SEC or other regulatory standards, the employee would be fired. There is no grey area.
Troy is a 21 year old student. He is not a child so please do not make that excuse. As a former D-1 athlete, I know how much time, energy iand money institutions put in to educate their student athletes on the NCAA rules. Troy even admitted that he knew better.
He basically told Tressel, Geiger and his teammates that he comes first. Tressel and Geiger's jobs are in jeopardy over this kids selfish acts. I would not accept this and I don't think Buckeye Nation should either.
NOW WITH all this said, if it was a judgement infraction (for instance taking money from a relative etc) then I apologize and I feel bad that this has happenned to Troy.
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12-21-2004, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by stagtennis
I'm sorry, but if he violated NCAA rules then I think he needs to be kicked off the team.
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Does everyone that breaks a law go to jail? N0, you do the time that fits the crime. There's a billion NCAA rules, if you held your standard to every athlete, there would be enough openings that I could make the team. Unless, of course somebody finds out about... |
12-21-2004, 03:41 PM
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In a galaxy far far away........... where the BP poster don't want him! Got about -2000 points for having him on there.
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