BuckeyePlanet Ohio State Forums

Go Back   BuckeyePlanet Ohio State Forums > Football > Buckeye Alumni
Home bpWiki Register FAQ Mark Forums Read Sponsors Affiliates Donate
 
Buckeye Alumni This forum is dedicated to updates concerning past Buckeye players.

 
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 03-02-2004, 09:23 PM
bucknut11's Avatar
Tressel OWNS LLLLLLoyd
 

Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,999
Points: 106,697.14
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 106,697.14
bucknut11 is All American
bucknut11 is All Americanbucknut11 is All Americanbucknut11 is All Americanbucknut11 is All Americanbucknut11 is All Americanbucknut11 is All Americanbucknut11 is All Americanbucknut11 is All Americanbucknut11 is All Americanbucknut11 is All Americanbucknut11 is All Americanbucknut11 is All Americanbucknut11 is All Americanbucknut11 is All Americanbucknut11 is All Americanbucknut11 is All Americanbucknut11 is All Americanbucknut11 is All Americanbucknut11 is All Americanbucknut11 is All Americanbucknut11 is All Americanbucknut11 is All American
osu DL David Patterson (official thread)

i've been seeing several references that David Patterson is probably going to be moved to DE for this year. this really surprises me. i thought he showed flashes of brilliance during his somewhat limited playing time this past season at DT. he's listed at 6'3" and 285 lb, which seems to be good size for a DT (i'm sure with a little work, he could get up to 300). despite the size, he can still get to the QB, as evidenced by his 17 sacks as a HS senior along with 98 tackles and 25 TFLs.

what do you guys think of this move? good, bad, or not gonna happen?
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Stumble it!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Share on Facebook!Google bookmark it!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 03-02-2004, 09:27 PM
BuckBackHome's Avatar
Wolverine is largest member of weasel family
 

Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Action, OH
Posts: 5,172
Points: 96,912.32
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 96,912.33
BuckBackHome is TresselesqueBuckBackHome is TresselesqueBuckBackHome is TresselesqueBuckBackHome is Tresselesque
BuckBackHome is TresselesqueBuckBackHome is TresselesqueBuckBackHome is TresselesqueBuckBackHome is TresselesqueBuckBackHome is TresselesqueBuckBackHome is TresselesqueBuckBackHome is TresselesqueBuckBackHome is TresselesqueBuckBackHome is TresselesqueBuckBackHome is TresselesqueBuckBackHome is TresselesqueBuckBackHome is TresselesqueBuckBackHome is TresselesqueBuckBackHome is TresselesqueBuckBackHome is TresselesqueBuckBackHome is TresselesqueBuckBackHome is TresselesqueBuckBackHome is TresselesqueBuckBackHome is TresselesqueBuckBackHome is Tresselesque
It may happen if they are trying to get the best players on the field, but it seems like he was a perfect fit at DT. He had enough talent to get some playing time as a true freshman on a line full of studs and that says a lot about his ability.

Who knows. Maybe he will be lined up on the end in a 3-4 defense with D'Andrea playing the true DE from his LB position. It's all conjecture at this point of the year, which is what gives us the right to imagine these configurations.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Stumble it!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Share on Facebook!Google bookmark it!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 03-03-2004, 08:34 AM
FKAGobucks877's Avatar
The Most Power-Drunk
Moderator
 
BP Donor



Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Picktown, Ohio
Posts: 5,762
Points: 353,352.91
Bank: 70,426.59
Total Points: 423,779.50
FKAGobucks877 is TresselesqueFKAGobucks877 is TresselesqueFKAGobucks877 is TresselesqueFKAGobucks877 is TresselesqueFKAGobucks877 is Tresselesque
FKAGobucks877 is TresselesqueFKAGobucks877 is TresselesqueFKAGobucks877 is TresselesqueFKAGobucks877 is TresselesqueFKAGobucks877 is TresselesqueFKAGobucks877 is TresselesqueFKAGobucks877 is TresselesqueFKAGobucks877 is TresselesqueFKAGobucks877 is TresselesqueFKAGobucks877 is TresselesqueFKAGobucks877 is TresselesqueFKAGobucks877 is TresselesqueFKAGobucks877 is TresselesqueFKAGobucks877 is TresselesqueFKAGobucks877 is TresselesqueFKAGobucks877 is Tresselesque
From my understanding, he is extemely fast for his size, and speed (among other things) is what you want out of a defensive end. I'm sure he could play both, but if the added weight takes away from his speed, then DE is a better fit for him. A lot of it also comes down to pass-rushing ability, as the interior lineman are usually better run-stoppers than DE, while the DE are better pass-rushers. Obviously, both positions need both skills, but if Patterson is a better pass-rusher, then why not make the move?
__________________
THE Ohio State University

Tradition
Honor
Excellence
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Stumble it!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Share on Facebook!Google bookmark it!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 03-03-2004, 10:12 AM
BuckNutty's Avatar
Hear The Drummer Get Wicked
Administrator
 


Cleveland Indians Boston Celtics Pittsburgh Steelers Ohio State

Join Date: May 2003
Location: OH-IO
Posts: 7,066
Points: 1,534,733.70
Bank: 3,009,174.76
Total Points: 4,543,908.46
BuckNutty has his jersey number retiredBuckNutty has his jersey number retiredBuckNutty has his jersey number retiredBuckNutty has his jersey number retiredBuckNutty has his jersey number retiredBuckNutty has his jersey number retiredBuckNutty has his jersey number retiredBuckNutty has his jersey number retiredBuckNutty has his jersey number retiredBuckNutty has his jersey number retiredBuckNutty has his jersey number retiredBuckNutty has his jersey number retiredBuckNutty has his jersey number retiredBuckNutty has his jersey number retiredBuckNutty has his jersey number retiredBuckNutty has his jersey number retiredBuckNutty has his jersey number retiredBuckNutty has his jersey number retiredBuckNutty has his jersey number retiredBuckNutty has his jersey number retiredBuckNutty has his jersey number retiredBuckNutty has his jersey number retiredBuckNutty has his jersey number retiredBuckNutty has his jersey number retiredBuckNutty has his jersey number retired
BuckNutty has his jersey number retiredBuckNutty has his jersey number retiredBuckNutty has his jersey number retiredBuckNutty has his jersey number retiredBuckNutty has his jersey number retiredBuckNutty has his jersey number retiredBuckNutty has his jersey number retiredBuckNutty has his jersey number retiredBuckNutty has his jersey number retiredBuckNutty has his jersey number retired
Quote:
Originally Posted by FKAGobucks877
A lot of it also comes down to pass-rushing ability, as the interior lineman are usually better run-stoppers than DE, while the DE are better pass-rushers. Obviously, both positions need both skills, but if Patterson is a better pass-rusher, then why not make the move?
I think that's it. Patterson is a great pass rusher and there might be too much traffic in the middle for him to utilize his talent on a consistent basis. We also seem to be more set at DT than we do at DE with Pitcock, Green, Cotton, Maupin and Abdallah on the way. I was very impressed with Patterson this summer. I won't mention the O-linemen, to protect the names of the innocent, but Patterson dominated in one on one drills against the second string. Swim moves, spin moves, bull rush....the kid had it all working. Not sure he would have had the success against guys like Mangold, Step or Olivea but you could see his immense talent. If the reports of him slimming down a bit are true I like the idea of moving him outside. He will probably play a little bit of both, much like Darrion Scott. Coach Heacock is going to get the best 4 on the field and Patterson having the ability to play inside and out is a big plus.
__________________
Anonymous Donor
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Stumble it!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Share on Facebook!Google bookmark it!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 03-03-2004, 10:24 AM
Sloopy45's Avatar
Pimp Minister Sinister
 

Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Norwalk, CT
Posts: 1,650
Points: 3,681.28
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 3,681.28
Sloopy45 is a redshirtSloopy45 is a redshirtSloopy45 is a redshirtSloopy45 is a redshirtSloopy45 is a redshirtSloopy45 is a redshirtSloopy45 is a redshirtSloopy45 is a redshirtSloopy45 is a redshirtSloopy45 is a redshirtSloopy45 is a redshirtSloopy45 is a redshirt
Well, we have to move one of the interior guys to DE, so it might as well be Patterson, if he can prove that he can rush on the outside.

We're loaded with DTs, have a spot to fill at DE, and I don't really see the D'Andrea speculation happening, IMO.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Stumble it!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Share on Facebook!Google bookmark it!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 03-03-2004, 01:59 PM
All-American
 

Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 480
Points: 9,180.48
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 9,180.48
7 45 33 48 is a redshirt7 45 33 48 is a redshirt7 45 33 48 is a redshirt7 45 33 48 is a redshirt7 45 33 48 is a redshirt7 45 33 48 is a redshirt7 45 33 48 is a redshirt7 45 33 48 is a redshirt7 45 33 48 is a redshirt
Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckinMichigan
It may happen if they are trying to get the best players on the field, but it seems like he was a perfect fit at DT. He had enough talent to get some playing time as a true freshman on a line full of studs and that says a lot about his ability.

Who knows. Maybe he will be lined up on the end in a 3-4 defense with D'Andrea playing the true DE from his LB position. It's all conjecture at this point of the year, which is what gives us the right to imagine these configurations.
I don't think Patterson fits into playing end in the 3-4 defense. Patterson is more like a one gap player, while 3-4 defensive ends are two gap players (like Tim Anderson was). If he is cutting weight to move to 4-3 defensive end then he will not have the size to play 3-4 defensive end.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Stumble it!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Share on Facebook!Google bookmark it!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 03-03-2004, 02:31 PM
FKAGobucks877's Avatar
The Most Power-Drunk
Moderator
 
BP Donor



Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Picktown, Ohio
Posts: 5,762
Points: 353,352.91
Bank: 70,426.59
Total Points: 423,779.50
FKAGobucks877 is TresselesqueFKAGobucks877 is TresselesqueFKAGobucks877 is TresselesqueFKAGobucks877 is TresselesqueFKAGobucks877 is Tresselesque
FKAGobucks877 is TresselesqueFKAGobucks877 is TresselesqueFKAGobucks877 is TresselesqueFKAGobucks877 is TresselesqueFKAGobucks877 is TresselesqueFKAGobucks877 is TresselesqueFKAGobucks877 is TresselesqueFKAGobucks877 is TresselesqueFKAGobucks877 is TresselesqueFKAGobucks877 is TresselesqueFKAGobucks877 is TresselesqueFKAGobucks877 is TresselesqueFKAGobucks877 is TresselesqueFKAGobucks877 is TresselesqueFKAGobucks877 is TresselesqueFKAGobucks877 is Tresselesque
tOSU plays a 4-3 defense, and I really don't see that changing. Some people would like to see a 3-4 this year because of our strength at LB, but it ain't gonna happen. The majority of NFL teams also play a 4-3 D, so he doesn't really have anything to lose by making the move, especially if he excels at it.
__________________
THE Ohio State University

Tradition
Honor
Excellence
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Stumble it!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Share on Facebook!Google bookmark it!
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 03-03-2004, 04:50 PM
All-American
 

Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 480
Points: 9,180.48
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 9,180.48
7 45 33 48 is a redshirt7 45 33 48 is a redshirt7 45 33 48 is a redshirt7 45 33 48 is a redshirt7 45 33 48 is a redshirt7 45 33 48 is a redshirt7 45 33 48 is a redshirt7 45 33 48 is a redshirt7 45 33 48 is a redshirt
Quote:
Originally Posted by FKAGobucks877
tOSU plays a 4-3 defense, and I really don't see that changing. Some people would like to see a 3-4 this year because of our strength at LB, but it ain't gonna happen. The majority of NFL teams also play a 4-3 D, so he doesn't really have anything to lose by making the move, especially if he excels at it.
I agree, there are a lot of players on Ohio State's roster that would not fit into the 3-4 defense.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Stumble it!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Share on Facebook!Google bookmark it!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 03-03-2004, 05:09 PM
BIATCHabutuka's Avatar
Heisman
 

Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: NE ohio, duh
Posts: 883
Points: 2,674.96
Bank: 85.93
Total Points: 2,760.89
BIATCHabutuka is in the two-deepBIATCHabutuka is in the two-deepBIATCHabutuka is in the two-deepBIATCHabutuka is in the two-deepBIATCHabutuka is in the two-deepBIATCHabutuka is in the two-deepBIATCHabutuka is in the two-deepBIATCHabutuka is in the two-deepBIATCHabutuka is in the two-deepBIATCHabutuka is in the two-deepBIATCHabutuka is in the two-deepBIATCHabutuka is in the two-deep