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Old 12-14-2005, 01:08 PM
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Link to Geiger's press conference on June 8, 2004. According to the chronology of events, the money was *lent* after the NLOI was signed and before the NCAA finally ruled on the athlet's eligibility status. If the loan was made in this time frame, OB would have had an affirmative duty to report to the NCAA that even if the athlete is somehow absolved by the NCAA on account of playing for a club team in Serbia, that athlete is now ineligible because the coach had just provded an impermissible extra benefit to the athlete. I can't see how OB wins this case, but stranger things have happened.
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Old 12-14-2005, 01:15 PM
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Link to Geiger's press conference on June 8, 2004. According to the chronology of events, the money was *lent* after the NLOI was signed and before the NCAA finally ruled on the athlet's eligibility status. If the loan was made in this time frame, OB would have had an affirmative duty to report to the NCAA that even if the athlete is somehow absolved by the NCAA on account of playing for a club team in Serbia, that athlete is now ineligible because the coach had just provded an impermissible extra benefit to the athlete. I can't see how OB wins this case, but stranger things have happened.
I agree, but the sticky point here is that Obie's lawyers are saying that the player, played overseas for money prior to the time Obie gave him the "loan", thus he was inelgible and not a recruit.
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Old 12-14-2005, 01:25 PM
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I agree, but the sticky point here is that Obie's lawyers are saying that the player, played overseas for money prior to the time Obie gave him the "loan", thus he was inelgible and not a recruit.
I understand what OB's lawyers are saying, but the fact remains that OB was part of an NCAA review process that dealt specifically with the eligibility status of the very player that he lent money to. OB was duty bound under NCAA rules to report the loan to the NCAA especially in light of the fact that the NCAA was in the process of ruling on the player's eligibility. To act as devil's advocate - if the eligibility status was a slam dunk certainty, then why did OB participate in a process on that very issue?
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Old 12-14-2005, 01:30 PM
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Link to the June 15, 2004 Cincy Post article regarding this mess. The Post also covers Spomenko Pajovic, the man who helped Radojevic come to the US and who was known in European circles as a broker/agent for European players who were looking to come to the US to play basketball. Pajovic was also involved with Savovic, and nothing at all good has come out of the Savovic situation. What a freaking mess.
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Old 12-14-2005, 01:37 PM
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Does anyone else find it ironic that the University is attempting to establish that recruiting violations did in fact occur (violations which will result in punishment from the NCAA) and that former employees are attempting to establish that no violations did in fact occur? Most universities deny wrongdoings, but yet we are going out of our way to show that they did in fact occur. I know it is to show that they were proactive when learning of the violations in an attempt to reduce punishment, but it still seems funny to me.
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Old 12-14-2005, 01:43 PM
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the facts you guys are spewing are slightly off from what iv heard...
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I don't know if anybody is spewing facts. All I know is what I read in reports on press conferences and court testimony. What facts are incorrect?
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the facts you guys are spewing are slightly off from what iv heard...
I am only going by what is out there in print, its possible I missed something. If there are missing details we are not hitting on, please fill us in.

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To act as devil's advocate - if the eligibility status was a slam dunk certainty, then why did OB participate in a process on that very issue?
I asked the same question earlier in this thread...

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OB was duty bound under NCAA rules to report the loan to the NCAA especially in light of the fact that the NCAA was in the process of ruling on the player's eligibility.
I agree with this 100%. When tOSU was going through the process of determining his eligiblity with the NCAA, I guess Obie thought it wasn't important to mention the simple fact he gave this recruit money.
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