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02-07-2008, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxBuck
In my opinion, Evan Turner has developed into the bellwether for this team. When he plays well (scores, shoots, avoids fouls) this team is terrific. When he struggles (as he did against both Iowa and Michigan), the team struggles.
Hope he can pick up his game this Sunday. 
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Well whenever you have a starter you depend on for 8-10 pts and he scores 0 you are of course going to struggle...
We really need 3 guys whoever they are to get into double digits and I think we would be very tough to beat...
I would be curious to see our record with 3 guys in double digits...My guess is besides maybe UT, in which there was a lot of points scored would be the 2 losses for sure...
Only 1 scored in double digits against MSU, 2 against Iowa, Purdue we had 2, aTm we had 2...We had 3 against Butler, UT, and UNC...
I just think that we are a much better game when more than just 1 or 2 guys are scoring, because it just means we are moving the ball getting it to open guys and more than just 1 or 2 guys are hitting their shots...
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02-07-2008, 06:40 PM
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Victory cigar! Bucky is vanquished!
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Well whenever you have a starter you depend on for 8-10 pts and he scores 0 you are of course going to struggle...
We really need 3 guys whoever they are to get into double digits and I think we would be very tough to beat...
I would be curious to see our record with 3 guys in double digits...My guess is besides maybe UT, in which there was a lot of points scored would be the 2 losses for sure...
Only 1 scored in double digits against MSU, 2 against Iowa, Purdue we had 2, aTm we had 2...We had 3 against Butler, UT, and UNC...
I just think that we are a much better game when more than just 1 or 2 guys are scoring, because it just means we are moving the ball getting it to open guys and more than just 1 or 2 guys are hitting their shots...
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In 16 wins, OSU has had:
2 in doubles - 3 times
3 in doubles - 9 times
4 in doubles - 1 time
5 in doubles - 3 times
average 3.25 players in double figures
In 7 losses, OSU has had:
1 in doubles - 1 time
2 in doubles - 3 times
3 in doubles - 2 times
4 in doubles - 1 time
average 2.42 players in double figures
The actual number for the average is somewhat of a meaningless metric, but the difference between the two average figures sure seems significant to me.
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02-07-2008, 07:46 PM
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OK, so you guys think I'm full of crap.
Jeeze, it's almost like talking to my wife!
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02-07-2008, 08:12 PM
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its cool i dont think your full of crap max buck 
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02-07-2008, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxBuck
OK, so you guys think I'm full of crap.
Jeeze, it's almost like talking to my wife!
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id say maybe try a correlation to something like points per poessions...
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02-07-2008, 09:44 PM
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id say maybe try a correlation to something like points per poessions...
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Yeah that is what I was thinking as well, like we would have guys in double figures against UT and UNC just because of how fast the games were...
But I think the numbers show that as we have more guys score it gets more guys involved, and it seems this team goes as they go on the offensive end, as that effects their all around game...
I understand that it seems obvious that the more points we score the better chance of winning, but I think it is beyond that, because really 3 guys in double figures could mean about 30-40 pts and if no once else is scoring then you are going to see problems...
I do believe that we can get consistent scoring from Butler every night...Then it is guys like Turner, Diebler, Lighty, KK, Hunter that need to pick up the scoring on given nights and I think one of them needs to be Turner, Diebler, or Lighty because they can open up the whole court...
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02-10-2008, 09:25 AM
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Why so serious?
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February 9, 2008
Turner's wrist the reason?
Freshman Evan Turner, the Buckeye most capable of filling up a stat line, had a breakout game at Tennessee three weeks ago with 21 points and 10 rebounds. He didn?t let up the next three games, scoring 14 points against Illinois, getting 17 points, eight rebounds and four assists against Minnesota, and pairing seven rebounds and a career-best seven assists Jan.28 at Penn State.
But he hasn?t been nearly as good since. After missing five of six shots at Penn State, he missed seven of nine and fouled out in the loss at Iowa last weekend. Tuesday against Michigan, he was scoreless for the first time this season and had no assists and four turnovers in only 14 minutes. Coach Thad Matta pulled him in favor of Jon Diebler with 16 1/2 minutes left in the game, after Turner had allowed two three-point baskets in his area, and never put him back in.
Diebler has been playing better of late, especially on defense. He had 14 points, five rebounds and two assists without a turnover in 26 minutes against Michigan. But when asked Friday whether he might be contemplating another change in the starting lineup, Matta said he hadn?t thought about it. Turner replaced Diebler eight games into the season.
?I haven?t really sat down and said, `Do I want to make a change??? Matta said. ?We?ve just got to make sure Evan?s ready to go because, without a doubt, he?s got some things he can do that obviously help us.?
Matta said Turner?s right wrist was injured last week. and he implied it contributed to his performance.
?One of the things that really helps Evan is getting in and doing skill instruction and an intense workout by himself. I think it helps shape him,? Matta said. ?He wasn?t able to do that? because of the injury.
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