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05-25-2007, 10:36 AM
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I would not count Turner out when you start talking about a starting 5. He probably is better ball handler then Diebler. I also think that Jon might play some SF with Lightly sliding down to the 4 position. That would be a pretty potent offensive team but it might lack in the rebounding area. However do not forget Turner 
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Can't say I disagree, about the first part, but with as deep as we are in the front court with KK, Hunter, Twig, Madsen, and Lauderdale I don't really see the need to slide Lighty to the four, unless tehre are certain matchups we are trying to get out on the court...
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There really isn't much leadership in the 5 and there is a significant decrease in talent at the C and PG spot from Oden and Conley
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Also don't sell Butler short, and saying he is a huge decrease in talent from Conley at the PG...
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05-25-2007, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TGfan06
... I look for Lighty to be the best player by far on this team. Tremendous finish to the season that I hope leads to a breakout season.
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I look for Jamar Butler to be our best player, though I also expect very good things from Lighty, Othello Hunter, and Kosta Koufos. My expectations of Turner, Diebler, Wallace and Lauderdale are quite a bit lower than most posters here, at least for the 2007-08 season. I think all these players are likely to need more development time. Frankly, I think Madsen might be an important key for how well our season ends up.
Outside shooting overall is likely to be a weakness for this team IMO. We lost a lot of horsepower in Lewis, Harris, and Cook.
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05-25-2007, 12:21 PM
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I think our best player will be Lighty or Turner. One of those two will shine this coming season.
Our most important player will be Twigs. He will have to play very well until KK is ready.
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05-25-2007, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxBuck
I look for Jamar Butler to be our best player, though I also expect very good things from Lighty, Othello Hunter, and Kosta Koufos. My expectations of Turner, Diebler, Wallace and Lauderdale are quite a bit lower than most posters here, at least for the 2007-08 season. I think all these players are likely to need more development time. Frankly, I think Madsen might be an important key for how well our season ends up.
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Turner, Diebler, Wallace and Lauderdale are all very good players, of course they are going to struggle, but with the fact that they are going to have to see the floor and at least one of them is going to start the improvement will be huge...I would put them no farther behind Lighty in terms of ability, and if he would of had to play as many minutes as these guys are going to have to this year, you can only imagine how fast his game would of progressed, as we saw where he ended at the end of the season getting around only 20 minutes or less a game...
Also Diebler, Turner, and Wallace bring more on the offensive end of the court, which is where Lighty struggled last year...Also they are all very long and athletic so they should be able to defend, at least as well as what Cook did last year, but I expect Turner to be a very good defender as he has done well for himself in matchups with Derrick Rose and other guys in AAU...
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Outside shooting overall is likely to be a weakness for this team IMO. We lost a lot of horsepower in Lewis, Harris, and Cook.
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We still have Butler, who with the ball in his hands will up his percentage IMO...We have Diebler and we all know how well he can stroke it, and I don't think that Turner and Wallace get enough credit for their outside shot, and also Lighty is the first guy in the gym shooting the ball all the time, so you can only imagine a whole off season and how it will improve his jumper...
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05-25-2007, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by crazybuckfan40
We still have Butler, who with the ball in his hands will up his percentage IMO...We have Diebler and we all know how well he can stroke it, and I don't think that Turner and Wallace get enough credit for their outside shot, and also Lighty is the first guy in the gym shooting the ball all the time, so you can only imagine a whole off season and how it will improve his jumper...
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I'm of course very excited for guys like Kosta coming in, but I think I'm more excited to see guys like Diebler develop. It sounds like he'll be here for at least 3 years (well thats what it sounds like, am I right?) and I think it will be fun to see him develop into a team leader. In a couple years it should be fun to have Diebler be an experienced shooter like Nietzel was for MSU this year/will be for them next year. (Or at least thats what it sounds like Diebler can be for us. Am I right? He is a great shooter, but it sounds like he'll stick around for a few years.)
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05-25-2007, 03:12 PM
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I'm of course very excited for guys like Kosta coming in, but I think I'm more excited to see guys like Diebler develop. It sounds like he'll be here for at least 3 years (well thats what it sounds like, am I right?) and I think it will be fun to see him develop into a team leader. In a couple years it should be fun to have Diebler be an experienced shooter like Nietzel was for MSU this year/will be for them next year. (Or at least thats what it sounds like Diebler can be for us. Am I right? He is a great shooter, but it sounds like he'll stick around for a few years.)
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Diebler is a totally different player than what Neitzel is...
Yes he is the type of guy that will be here 4 years, and he has range when he steps inside interstate 270 loop...
He took an abundance of shots at the high school level leading to his high volume of points, but his ability to get a shot off with just a little crease and when he is going to have guys creating shots for him, where he is able to just catch and shooot something he didnt have much of in high school he will be deadly...He will stretch the defense out and open things up in the paint...
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05-25-2007, 03:25 PM
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Yes he is the type of guy that will be here 4 years, and he has range when he steps inside interstate 270 loop......
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