NBA-NCAA Predicament

[WyoBuckeye]

On one hand you have the NBA telling kids they cannot enter the NBA draft until they are 19. Then you have the NCAA telling schools that they will lose scholarships if the APR is less than 925. Now here's the problem, everytime one of these kids like Oden goes to college for a year instead of heading strainght to the NBA, it may seriously hurt the school's APR. I wonder if these three (GO, DC, MC) coming to tOSU and leaving early is going to eventually hurt the program. I am still happy they came here and that we had them for the short time we did, but does anybody else wonder if this could end up hurting the school and the program in the long run? If it does, either the NBA should recind it's policy or the NCAA should make allowances for kids leaving so they can play professional ball. Otherwise, we might find that decent schools don't want them and the NBA will not let them in. It could potentially create quite a quandry.

What are your thoughts?

[BB73]

If players are leaving early and getting drafted, I have no problem with the hit to the APR, even if it means that they lose a schollie or 2. That's much different than having guys drop out of school or become academically ineligible.

The team was short on scholarships this past season, and it was the best one in 45 years.

If the players get decent grades while they're at tOSU, and proceed to the NBA for a career, I won't be bothered by fans of other programs calling tOSU a 'basketball factory' when top talent produces highly ranked teams and players leave early. It's been OK for North Carolina.

[LitlBuck]

Originally Posted by WyoBuckeye

On one hand you have the NBA telling kids they cannot enter the NBA draft until they are 19. Then you have the NCAA telling schools that they will lose scholarships if the APR is less than 925. Now here's the problem, everytime one of these kids like Oden goes to college for a year instead of heading strainght to the NBA, it may seriously hurt the school's APR. I wonder if these three (GO, DC, MC) coming to tOSU and leaving early is going to eventually hurt the program. I am still happy they came here and that we had them for the short time we did, but does anybody else wonder if this could end up hurting the school and the program in the long run? If it does, either the NBA should recind it's policy or the NCAA should make allowances for kids leaving so they can play professional ball. Otherwise, we might find that decent schools don't want them and the NBA will not let them in. It could potentially create quite a quandry.

What are your thoughts?

I have mentioned this in the Recruiting Forum a couple times. I think if TM can get the guys to stay through Spring quarter so they are eligible when they leave, if future guys do leave early, I don't think our APR takes that big of a hit. I do not understand the APR enough to completely explained it but if they leave early and are still academically eligible it is only a 2/1 but if they are ineligible, like Oden might be, we take a 2/0 hit. I guess this is a price we are going to have to pay if we want to excel at basketball. The only guy that I might see leaving early in the next few years might be Kosta and for him to leave he will have to get stronger IMO.


I think if our APR takes a major hit we might not be able to offer anyone in the 2009 recruiting class. Perhaps someone who understands the APR better than me can give a better explanation on what might happen and when.

[Wingate1217]

I really do not care much for the rule. At its heart it is meant as a good indicator of progression toward a degree. Nothing wrong with that, however, when you reduce the number of scholarships you inadvertently can cause other problems. Some kid who may have gotten a schollie may not simply because the number of schollies has been reduced. This rule doesn't look to affect the "big boys" (with apologies to Univ. of Cinci) as most of the programs that took the hit where "small players". In addition, a loss of a scholarship will not affect the "big time" schools. As mention earlier in this thread OSU did just fine this year with a reduction in the number of scholarships.

Now if the NCAA were to enforce this "APR rule" by a reduction in games played on TV, or a loss of revenue to the school's athletic department that would be the "real reform," and would impact the students the least and make the schools take notice and action sooner.

[crazybuckfan40]

I always thought the main reason for college, was to better yourself and start a good career...

Well these kids are going to school, staying eligible to play for the time they are in school and then leaving for a career in the NBA...

I don't see why it should hurt the school, b/c honestly that one year at the program helped them better their position in their career...

[BB73]

Another problem with the APR, as sandgk just pointed out in a post about LSU's situation (Barksdale's thread), is that schools will want to keep guys on the team in some situations where they would normally drop their scholarship, in order to not take a hit on their APR score.