Matta's One and Dones

[LitlBuck]

Originally Posted by JCOSU86

Chuck Taylor?

I didn't know Fred Taylor's nickname was Chuck.

Aren't you old enough to remember Chuck Taylor's Converse hightops That's what Fred's teams probably wore.

[jwinslow]

Originally Posted by Jaxbuck

I have no ide what UF is doing wrong in hoops the past 2 years but they obviously know how to do it right. Chances are they'll be back at the top soon enough.

Or not.

http://florida.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=936707

1. 12.5 ppg & 6.5 rpg F Alex Tyus (OSU offer, Thad chose Turner) is transferring.
2. 17.2 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 6.4 ast PG Nick Calathes has not withdrawn his name from the draft yet.
3. 4-star big man Deshawn Painter has decommitted from UF. Tyus had to play C last year due to a lack of personnel, IIRC.

Not trying to kick you while you're down, Gators, trying to give a little perspective here.

[LitlBuck]

It appears as though underclassmen won't be allowed to string out the process of testing the NBA waters next year.

The NCAA legislative council voted Monday to move up the date from 10 days prior to the draft (which is held in late-June) to May 8 to decide whether they will remain in the NBA Draft or withdraw their names and preserve their college eligibility.

The change will go into place for next season unless the NCAA?s Division I board of directors overrules the decision on April 30.

"I think it's a move in the right direction," Kansas coach Bill Self told FOXSports.com. "It's still difficult to be able to replace guys at that point, but it helps solidify things earlier. I think it's a good move, but I still wish the NCAA and NBA could work together to shorten it even more."

Now players will have a short window to declare for the NBA Draft and gauge their status. Currently, players have until Sunday, April 26 to decide whether they want to test the waters and don't have to make a final decision whether to withdraw until mid-June.

That's a six-week or so period where many of them aren't attending classes and are getting bombarded by agents and runners.

"It's definitely beneficial for the college programs," said Ohio State coach Thad Matta, who has lost four players in the last three years early to the NBA. "I think it'll give more clarity to the programs. The waiting game is quicker and that?ll be beneficial."

It also means that the underclassmen won't have a chance to fly around the country and work out for a dozen or two NBA teams before making a decision ? as has been the case in recent years.

"It's also another three or four weeks that the kids who decide to come back are in school instead of traveling around," Self added. "It allows kids a chance to work towards graduation."

The proposal also removes the option for draft entrants who are not chosen in the NBA Draft to return to college. Previously, those who were not selected in the draft had 30 days after the draft to declare their intention to return.

UNDERCLASSMEN MAY HAVE LESS TIME TO TEST NBA WATERS • College Hoop Blog: Good 'N Plenty - FOX Sports Blogs

[MaxBuck]

The proposal also removes the option for draft entrants who are not chosen in the NBA Draft to return to college. Previously, those who were not selected in the draft had 30 days after the draft to declare their intention to return.

I'd like to know what in the hell the NCAA is doing eliminating this opportunity. It's nothing other than a screw job for the student-athlete. What valid scholastic goal does it promote?

[LitlBuck]

Underclassmen must withdraw from draft earlier (Hoops & Scoops: an OSU basketball blog)

Underclassmen must withdraw from draft earlier

Early entrants in the NBA draft will have to withdraw by May 8 starting next year, according to a rule approved today by the NCAA board of directors. The current rule allows players to wait until June 15.

The NBA also agreed to move individual tryouts up to April 30. Those do not begin now until early June.
Next year, the NBA still will not release the list of withdrawals until mid-June, but players still must notify the NCAA by the new deadline that they plan to return to school, said David Berst, NCAA Division I vice president.

NCAA coaches lobbied for the earlier withdrawal date so they could begin planning for the next season sooner. The board approved the rule because it puts more emphasis on helping returning players, especially those at schools on the quarter system like Ohio State, academically eligible.

Also today, the NBA released the list of 74 college underclassmen who have entered the June 25 draft. Ohio State freshman B.J. Mullens was the only Big Ten player to put his name in.

Posted by Bob Baptist on April 30, 2009

[Buckskin86]

ESPN Outside the Lines show on One and Done's...interview with Thad

OTL: One And Done - ESPN Video - ESPN

[LitlBuck]

Great find by 86.

Thought it was interesting that Matta thought that Conley would be a three-year player until about a month away from the end of the season and then he realized that Mike would probably be gone.

Also interesting to hear that Kosta had some conversations with agents during the season. Matta did not say that he was fully focused on the season because he had one foot in and one foot out.

NBA executives say that the one year of college rule gives them more time to evaluate talent before they invest their money in a player. If they are so worried about making a wrong investment, maybe they should let the kids stay in college for 2-3 years and that would give them a lot more time to evaluate players.

[OHSportsFan9]

Originally Posted by Buckskin86

ESPN Outside the Lines show on One and Done's...interview with Thad

OTL: One And Done - ESPN Video - ESPN

On ESPN starting now.

[Buckskin86]

Another Buckeye set to use NBA's one-and-done rule
RUSTY MILLER
Tuesday, June 30, 2009

COLUMBUS, Ohio - John Wooden won 10 NCAA championships at UCLA by stockpiling incredible talent and developing it.

Ohio State coach Thad Matta has never won a national title. Yet in his dreams he ponders what it was like for the Wizard of Westwood, back in the days before players could leave school early for the pros.

"I've often said this to my wife: 'Can you imagine what John Wooden felt like every night when he went to bed?'" Matta said with a laugh.

Had all of Matta's recruits stayed with the Buckeyes instead of using the NBA's "one and done" rule that allows players to jump to the pros after a single college season, he might have a UCLA-sized juggernaut of his own.

"I'd have a little smile on my face," Matta said.

Over the last two NBA drafts, no fewer than four Ohio State players have spent one year on campus before being taken in the first round. B.J. Mullens, the third 7-footer of the bunch, is expected to make it five in three years in Thursday night's draft.

Matta hates the rule but shrugs. It's not his choice.

But the list of those opposing it is growing. The National Association of Basketball Coaches, which represents college coaches, is lobbying the NBA and its players association to change the rule when its next contract takes effect in 2011.

Matta's teams have gone 35-4, 24-13 and 22-11 the last three years. Next year's club will be built around Evan Turner, a junior who was an honorable mention All-American last season while averaging 17.3 points, 7.1 rebounds and 4 assists a game.

But what Matta sees when he drifts off to sleep is a tall and talented lineup of veterans that includes 7-foot Greg Oden (No. 1, Portland, 2007) at center, Mike Conley Jr. (No. 4, Memphis, 2007) running the point, 7-0 Kosta Koufos (No. 23, Utah, 2008) at power forward, Daequan Cook (No. 21, Philadelphia, 2007, then traded to Miami) at shooting guard and Turner at small forward.

Another Buckeye set to use NBA's one-and-done rule / nwi.com

[Oh8ch]

maybe they should let the kids stay in college for 2-3 years

Nobody is preventing kids from staying in school. The only constraints in place are against entering the NBA.

[Taosman]

There's an element of greed in action here. We're talking about millions of potential dollars being dangled in front of kids and their handlers. That's a lot of temptation to ignore or not be corrupted by. The only answer is an agreement with the NBA on number of years a kid must stay in school. It's a win, win for the NBA and the kids. The NBA gets players more mature and the kids see the possibilities of what a college education can be. And of course colleges will benefit also.