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Old 05-16-2005, 04:15 PM
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I don't think so, Mili, I'm almost positive that the two-game suspension is all he'll be hit with...especially since the NCAA and the University have known since it first came out how much money it was. I think the threshold is more than $500 to warrant a longer suspension.
i'm pretty sure it was discussed that the precedent for this type of an infraction was a 2 game suspension and restitution. there was even talk of appealing the 2 game suspension as the thinking was that the fact that he wasnt with the team at the bowl game exceeded what would be a normal 1 game suspension.

i would say that once smith makes resititution, things will be all square.
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it was a bunch of nothing about a bunch of nothing.....other than to know, here are the problems, now fix them.....of course, the department started that long ago.....giving up a sure NCAA birth should absolve the program moving forward.....and there may be a few back penalties that are minor.....jmo....

the football team should be square.....this was evident months ago when myles brand lauded the university as an example of how to act when something should go wrong.....
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the football team should be square.....this was evident months ago when myles brand lauded the university as an example of how to act when something should go wrong.....
I forgot to mention this. Excellent point...no worries there.
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I guess I've been under a rock the last six months...I thought Smith took only $100 and not $500. If it were only $100, then I would guess his 2-game suspension would suffice. If it is indeed $500, then I could see a few games more, or even a loss of some official visits (don't think it's enough to warrant a forfeiture of scholarship).

That info. was provided by 1460theFan reporter Lori Schmitt (sp?) just prior to the newsconference Mili. She (and all the reporters) got a copy of the NCAA letter to OSU, and she ran down the list of allegations. I just summerized. Here's another summary from the Ozone:


From the Ozone Front Page:
http://www.the-ozone.net/

May 16, 2005 3:30 PM


Athletics: The Ohio State University today received a report from the NCAA listing the infractions that OSU allegedly committed. OSU will be expected to reply to these allegations before any rulings from the NCAA. Here is a complete list of the allegations.

* Former men's basketball coach Jim O'Brien, through then-assistant coach Paul Biancardi, provided a cash payment of approximately $6,700 to then-recruit Alex Radojevic
* Kathleen Salyers had improper in-person contacts and impermissibly provided recruiting inducements to Radojevic.
* An individual (who became a booster after providing benefits) gave recruiting inducements and benefits to a former men's basketball student-athlete, including meals, cash payments and living expenses.
* A booster provided a former men's basketball student-athlete with impermissible academic assistance.
* O'Brien impermissibly provided Kathleen Salyers with two season tickets for four consecutive home men's basketball seasons.
* O'brien and Biancardi acted contrary to the principles of ethical conduct by failing to report their knowing involvement in NCAA rules violations relating to the above allegations.
* Both the institution and O'Brien failed to monitor the conduct and administration of the men's basketball program.
* Ronald Erkis, A Columbus orthodontist, provided impermissible, cost-free or discounted services to several women's basketball student-athletes.
* A booster provided an impermissible extra benefit to a football student-athlete in the form of cash payment of $500 for work that allegedly was never performed.


This is the complete list of NCAA allegations. The-Ozone will have a full report from the press conference and the NCAA report later today.

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From Sports Illustrated (AP):
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ohio.state.ap/

NCAA puts OSU on notice

Buckeyes face nine NCAA violations in hoops, football

Posted: Monday May 16, 2005 4:29PM; Updated: Monday May 16, 2005 4:35PM


COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) -- The NCAA notified Ohio State on Monday of nine alleged rules violations, including cash gifts, improper academic assistance and failure of the school and coaches to monitor the men's basketball program.

Seven of the violations involved men's basketball, including a school booster allegedly giving cash and academic help to a former player.

The others involved a booster allegedly giving $500 to a football player, and a dentist providing free and discounted services to women's basketball players.

Ohio State previously said it was looking into many of the alleged violations, including a cash gift to a recruit from former basketball coach Jim O'Brien, who was fired after acknowledging the payment.

"The allegations set forth in this report are consistent with what we expected," Ohio State president Karen Holbrook said at a news conference.

The school must respond to the allegations by July, and an infractions committee will hold a hearing before determining whether sanctions are warranted, athletic director Gene Smith said.

Ohio State's athletic department has faced a series of NCAA investigations of its high-profile sports since the football team won the national championship in 2002.

Copyright 2005 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
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</TD><TD noWrap width=3></TD><TD vAlign=top>Smith, Holbrook Address NCAA Allegations
By Bucknuts.com Staff
Date: May 16, 2005

OSU President Karen Holbrook and athletic director Gene Smith met with the media this afternoon to address nine allegations made by the NCAA against the football and men's and women's basketball programs.
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Ohio State held a press conference this afternoon to share details on the notice of allegations it received from the NCAA on charges of violations in the football and men’s and women’s basketball programs.

“Our receipt of this report brings to a close this phase of our joint investigation that is now moving forward toward conclusion,” OSU President Karen Holbrook said. “The actions we have taken to date are commensurate with the serious nature of these charges and with our commitment to maintain a great athletic program that fully complies with NCAA rules.”

Holbrook was joined at the news conference by newly hired OSU athletic director Gene Smith.

OSU must now respond to the NCAA by July 26 on the nine main allegations described in the letter. The NCAA’s Committee on Infractions will then hear the case in either September or October and could hand down further sanctions against OSU as early as November.

Although Smith is a former member of the NCAA’s Committee on Infractions, he stopped short of predicting what additional sanctions OSU may face. The school self-imposed a postseason ban in men’s basketball this past season.

Seven of the nine allegations revealed today deal with the men’s basketball program. The football and women’s basketball program each had one allegation named.

In a nutshell, here is what the NCAA alleged in its letter to OSU today:

* In 1998, then-men's basketball coach Jim O'Brien arranged through assistant Paul Biancardi the payment of approximately $6,700 to then-recruit Alex Radojevic;

* Kathleen Salyers had improper in person contacts and impermissibly provided recruiting inducements to Radojevic;

* An individiual who became a booster gave recruiting inducements and benefits to a former men's basketball student-athlete, including meals, cash payments and living expenses (Because of federal laws, OSU provided a redacted copy of the NCAA’s allegations, erasing the names of key figures. However, it is believed this relates to Salyers’ benefits provided to Boban Savovic.);

* A booster provided a former men's basketball student-athlete with impermissible academic assistance (again, this may relate to Salyers’ assistance of Savovic);

* O'Brien impermissibly provided Salyers with two season tickets for four consecutive seasons;

* O'Brien and Biancardi acted contrary to the principles of ethical conduct by failing to report their involvement in the violations above;

* Both the institution and O'Brien failed to monitor the conduct and administration of the men's basketball program;

* Ronald Erkis, a Columbus orthodontist, provided impermissible cost-free or discounted services to several women's basketball players; and

* A booster provided an impermissible extra benefit to a football student athlete for $500 cash for work that was never performed (this takes in Robert Baker’s payment to Troy Smith).

The Troy Smith allegation is the only one where the NCAA found proof. Gene Smith said the NCAA investigated a number of claims made by Maurice Clarett and others.

Smith will serve the second of a two-game suspension for the 2005 season opener against Miami (Ohio). Otherwise, the football program – after months of bad publicity – seems to be free and clear.

“There was a thorough investigation by the NCAA and our staff,” Gene Smith said. “What you see before you is what you see in football.”

Regarding the basketball allegations, Gene Smith also noted the distinction of the charge “failure to monitor.” That is a step below the NCAA’s wide ranging count of “lack of institutional control,” a finding that could have led to much stiffer penalties.

“Those are two different charges,” Gene Smith said. “Lack of institutional control is the heaviest charge we can receive from the NCAA. Failure to monitor is at another level, a lesser charge than a lack of institutional control.”

This story will be updated with more comments as the day continues.

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1460 (Herbie and whoever other guy is) is giving some quote from the Dispatch that the NCAA investigation is not complete and when it is THEY will hold a press conference not the member school.
I listened to the internet broadcast, and Gene Smith made it clear that the investigative stage by both the NCAA and OSU is over. The next stage is the sanction stage. The investgation is over unless Bruce Hooley, Bill Livingston, and their selected OSU friends continue on this vendetta.
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