Buckeye Receivers - 2005

[Siva Retsub Buc]

Wide Receiver depth is starting to look a little low. We have so many questions with this right now.

WR - Santonio Holmes (you never know. I think it might be 50-50 now he might leave, because of his 2 children. Some insiders in San Antonio now state that they see the gleam in his eyes that this is his last game as a Buckeye. Hopefully he is true to his word that he'll stay, but we have seen players change their minds before, in both going to the draft, and in the recruiting world. Nothing is ever set in stone.)

WR - Albert Dukes (Could be 2 for 2 in not getting the Belle Glade kids back. I think it's almost a given we will not see Albert back. I would say it's at least a 90 percent chance on that. It's hard to win a defensive battle against a 12 year old girl in this type of case. If any of the accusations against him are true... he's done, he's toast, and he will never set foot on a football field again.)

WR - Roy Hall (All these talks about how he's been a dissapointment so far have some merit to them. He was hyped up to be like David Boston, and then damn near got demoted to 3rd string behind 4 receivers... Holmes, Ginn, Gonzales, and even Lyons at times at end of the year. Then there are talks of bulking him into a tight end. That will not happen now, as I think our depth at WR might be running low soon).

WR - Devin Jordan (Had a nasty injury this year. Will he ever come back and be the same? Another possible question here, and a possible casualty. Think Angelo Chattams and Darik Warnke too. They suffered nasty injuries too, and had to call it quits because of the position they played... wide receiver.)

WR - Andre Amos (A stud WR/CB out of high school, but insiders claimed that the staff might actually have been more excited about him as a taller cornerback with his 6'2" frame. That may not happen now. We may need him at receiver, but we'll see. Cornerback depth could have some issues of its own).

WR - Brian Hartline (See Jordan above. A nasty injury. Hopefully we'll continue to get good news on Hartline's progress though. Will he ever be the same though?)

WR- Bam Childress (A senior. We are losing him)

WR - John Hollins (A senior. We're losing him as well)



Based on all of this, I think we need to recruit 2 more receivers in this class. Carlos Thomas (WR/CB) would count as one. I honestly think we need to recruit Jessie Hester Jr. from Florida (6'0", sub 4.5 speed when healthy), and have him replace Albert Dukes. If Dukes somehow pulls it off and comes back, then we'll just have an extra receiver, and that may give Ginn and/or Amos (and/or Carlos Thomas) to play more at cornerback too.

Getting 2 more receivers and 1 more linebacker at this point, might actually be better than vice versa. Remember, we still have Freeman, Hoobler, Lukens, Perry, and Brandon Smith, to go with the linebacker recruits in this class for the future. Wide receiver depth is starting to look shaky now, and could get real shaky soon.

[jlb1705]

Uhhh... Ted Ginn, Jr.? Anthony Gonzalez? Devon Lyons?

Barring another catastrophe, every significant contributor will be back next year, and then some. Those three guys that you didn't even mention are either sophomores or freshmen.

We're doing fine. I love it when people pretend they're appropriating the teams recruiting efforts, as if the staff didn't realize a long time ago what the situation was.

[MililaniBuckeye]

You're starting a thread about WR depth without even mentioning Ginn? Not to mention Gonzalez and Lyons...

[BGriffBuckeye]

I think we look pretty nice next season at WR personally.

Holmes, Hall, Lyons, Ginn, Gonzalez, Jordan, Hartline, Amos... Dukes?

Pretty solid if you ask me. Also, all the more reason we need Carlos Thomas in this class. As the #9 rated WR in the country by Rivals, he could fill in at times if needed (even though the staff wants him at CB). For me though, I really want to see Amos play this year and Lyons seems to be lifting weights as he looks pretty big form the Alamo Bowl photos over at BN. Plus, if Holmes does leave for the NFL after next season, we still got Wesley Lyon (Devon's "little" brother---I say "little" because the kid is a legit 6'6"!!) and even Ray Smalls from Glenville (and we all know about the Glenville recruits). I am sure some other names pop up, but those are a few I have heard of with interest in us.

[wadc45]

I think Devon Lyons is going to be a stud WR. 6'4 or 6'5 and 200+. He will be shedding DBs in no time. I think we start next year with Santonio starting at flanker and Ginn starting at split end and Gonzo at the slot receiver. When Ted comes out to rest Lyons and Roy Hall will most likely go in at SE, just because Gonzo is built perfectly to be a slot receiver. Gonzo can play flanker when Santonio rests. So the depth chart probably will look like something like this (at least this is my guess)...

Split End
1 - Ted Ginn
2 - Roy Hall/Devon Lyons
3 - Devin Jordan

Flanker
1 - Santonio Holmes
2 - Anthony Gonzalez
3 - Albert Dukes

Slot
1 - Anthony Gonzalez
2 - Devon Lyons
3 - Albert Dukes/Devin Jordan/Derek Harden/Brian Hartline?

[brutus2002]

I think 6 WR's will get considerable playing time next year. If we can blow teams out then other players will get to shine.

[BuckBackHome]

Have we so quickly forgotten about Fred Davis?

[wadc45]

Originally Posted by BuckinMichigan

Have we so quickly forgotten about Fred Davis?

We were talking about the WR depth, not the TE depth...buh-zing!

[brutus2002]

IMO we are not gonna take that kid. He had a chance to play at OSU and blew it. I don't want us to waste a schollie on him. Get a kid that wants to be a Buckeye plus WR is not a position of need.

[BuckBackHome]

Originally Posted by wadc45

We were talking about the WR depth, not the TE depth...buh-zing!

I thought they might bring him in, bulk him up some and stick him on the line.

[brutus2002]

If we get Lawrence Wilson I will be very happy with our depth at TE. Remember that Rory Nicol is only a freshmen. Give him the offseason to grow as a player and he might be a great one.

[stowfan]

Originally Posted by BuckinMichigan

I thought they might bring him in, bulk him up some and stick him on the line.

You seem to have forgotten, he doesn't want to block. As much as I believe in giving people a second chance, Fred will always be a me first guy. As my Dad used to say; " a leopard can't change it's spots".

[wadc45]

I don't think there is any way Davis ends up at tOSU, but if he did, he could be the TE that Irizarry never was. Someone who can really stretch a cover-two defense. Also, I know it is an extreme longshot, but I still could see Roy Hall bulking up and moving to TE. For now, Hamby and Nicol are two great TEs. After that, it could be any number of people. Hoobler, or does he end up at LB? Brandon Smith, or does he end up at LB? Marcel Frost, or does he end up at DE? Lawrence Wilson, or does he end up at DE/ND/Florida? Stan White, or does he end up at FB? Doug Worthington, or does he end up at DE? There are plenty of options...

[BuckBackHome]

How about long snapper for Fred Davis? We're losing Andrews and need a skilled player at that position?

[The KSB]

There's a post by someone claiming to be Fred Davis' brother on the USC board saying that Northwestern gave his seat on a flight to someone else and that's the reason he was late. Not that he was homesick. He goes on to say he think Fred isn't waivering on USC, that he's committed to making things right. FWIW