Disgusting ESPN/High School Story

[BuckWrestler141]

Originally Posted by jwinslow

Is it or is it not exploitation of those players to make them suffer under an incompetent coach

Have to disagree with this again. They still have their origanal coach plus Dick now, just because he hasn't coached before doesn't mean he isn't capable of, i'm pretty sure a majority of schools would glady allow him to try his hand into the coaching world if he was interested.

I think you will find another possible problem depending on how the state handles it. I'm expecting a bunch of real good talent to TRANSFER into the program. If i'm a good player i'm going to love that kind of exposure every coach in the world is going to see you easily.

[MililaniBuckeye]

Originally Posted by tibor75

isn't it the school that is going to be gaining financially? I guarentee you that whether or not this show is on or not, affects ESPN's parent company's bottom line very little.

OK, so if the school forces the kids to do after-school janitorial work for free in place of the janitor, that's not not explotation of the kids because the school is saving money by not having to pay the janitor's wages? Also, all media (TV, radio, print, web, etc.) networks are in the business to make money...if ESPN didn't think they'd make advertising money on this show, they surely wouldn't be doing it. It had better affect ESPN's bottom line in a positive way, or some producer's head will roll.

[jwinslow]

Originally Posted by BuckWrestler141

Have to disagree with this again. They still have their origanal coach plus Dick now, just because he hasn't coached before doesn't mean he isn't capable of, i'm pretty sure a majority of schools would glady allow him to try his hand into the coaching world if he was interested.

I think you will find anothe rpossible problem depenidg on how the state handles it. I'm expecting a bunch of real good talent to TRANSFER into the program. If i'm a good player i'm going to love that kind of exposure every coach in the world is going to see you easily.

I'd say that's fair... I guess I just see a ton of situations, and one of them is bound to happen (moreso the embarrassment, distraction and visibility issues)

[tibor75]

Originally Posted by MililaniBuckeye

OK, so if the school forces the kids to do after-school janitorial work for free in place of the janitor, that's not not explotation of the kids because the school is saving money by not having to pay the janitor's wages? .

I agree that there is some exploitation involved...but the guilty party is the school, not ESPN.

Isn't NCAA football exploitation too?

[Golferdow01]

ESPN is definitely wrong by doing this but I have come to expect nothing less from them so I am not surprised whatsoever. The school board on the other hand is absolutely shameful. Using the team to make money like that is pathetic. Sure it is possible that the publicity could benefit the team but I don't think that it is right for a high school team to get that kind of publicity and so many things could go wrong to humiliate them. Call me old fashioned but I just don't think it's right at all.

[jwinslow]

Yes, it definitely is to an extent... worse b/c it pretends like it doesn't owe the players anything (not saying they should pay them but that's one of the biggest exploitations).

I think the school is the first person you smack around, and ask why they did something so stupid. But their stupidity was accepting a show invented by ESPN to exploit kids. I don't really see ESPN being any less evil from your arguments, just that the ethics of the schoolboard should have stopped their horrendous idea.