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08-22-2005, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by gbearbuck
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I didn't realize home attendance made a good football team??? (even though they did have us rated the highest in that category  )...
They didn't figure in final poll results which imo are very important...
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Yeah probably one of the most important points in the whole scenario.
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08-22-2005, 08:07 PM
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They're ranking the programs, not the teams. I believe attendance is a legit factor.
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08-22-2005, 08:16 PM
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Bad Loss or Forgiving Statistic
One thing caught my eye -- The definition of a "Bad Loss."
And the "Elite Wins" has two levels, one at home, one on the road.
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- Elite Wins. This is how many wins a program has from 2002-2004 over teams that finished a season with two losses or fewer, or wins on the road over teams that finished with three losses or fewer. An extra 0.5 is added for an Elite Win on the road, but that doesn't get added for wins over teams with three losses. One very important note, a change was made this year to a ruling. If a team beats a team that finished with three losses twice, it gets credit for two Elite Wins. For example, Auburn beat Tennessee, who finished with three losses, twice last year and gets Elite credit for both wins
Why this is important: These are, more often than not, the types of wins that make good programs great, and are the wins the fans remember.
- Bad Losses. These are the number of losses a program has from 2002-2004 against teams that finished a season with three wins or fewer. This number is subtracted from the overall score. An extra 0.5 is taken off a bad loss at home.
Why this is important: Lose to a bad team and the win the week before gets quickly forgotten about. These are the losses that suck the life out of a team and a season.
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Certainly different from what many fans use as their metric of bad.
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08-22-2005, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by sandgk
One thing caught my eye -- The definition of a "Bad Loss."
And the "Elite Wins" has two levels, one at home, one on the road.
Certainly different from what many fans use as their metric of bad.
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Yeah I know I would consider our loss to NW a bad loss and when scUM lost to Notre Lame.
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08-22-2005, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by crazybuckfan40
Yeah I know I would consider our loss to NW a bad loss and when scUM lost to Notre Lame.
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Iowa is the other one that sticks in my mind from last season - though it was also the turning point.
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08-22-2005, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by sandgk
Iowa is the other one that sticks in my mind from last season - though it was also the turning point.
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Yeah but they caught in a really [censored]ty point in the season and they were a good team.
I guess it depends on how you look at a bad loss.
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08-23-2005, 09:01 AM
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Buckeyes still #1 with me!
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One observation...The rating won't drop if we are undefeated this year! 
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08-23-2005, 09:04 AM
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