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Handicapping the Heisman

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By Terry Bowden, Yahoo! Sports
August 22, 2005


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It's time again to handicap the most coveted award in college football, the Heisman Trophy. The most important thing to remember is that this trophy seldom goes to the best player in college football. It goes to the best player at the right position on the right team. In other words, to get the award nowadays you need to be a quarterback, a running back or maybe, just maybe, a wide receiver playing at a BCS school.

I'm not saying that is the way it should be but rather that is just the way it is. The last player at a different position to get the award was cornerback Charles Woodson at Michigan in 1997.

There is no standard set of rules on how to vote for the Heisman. However, if you look back over the last few years it is easy to see that a pattern of voting tendencies has been established.

For a quarterback it is more about leading your team to a championship than it is statistics. You can throw for a million yards on a 7-4 team, and you won't get a sniff of the trophy. But if you are a QB that has your team in contention for the national championship at the end of the season, you are almost guaranteed a trip to New York City.

A running back is not held to the same standard. His success is all about total stats. A running back pretty much needs to lead the nation in rushing or have put together several great seasons. If you are a wide receiver or an all-purpose back, you don't need to be the statistical leader in the country, but you had better be versatile and have a great selection of 10-second highlight videos. It really helps if you can throw in a few reverses, punt returns or passes or can also line up at defensive back.

With that being said, here is my first attempt to handicap the Heisman.

1. Matt Leinart (Sr., QB, USC)
Last year's Heisman Trophy winner could become the second two-time recipient. Archie Griffin won back-to-back awards in 1974-75 for Ohio State. In 2004 Leinart threw for 3,322 yards including 33 touchdowns and only six interceptions, leading USC to its second straight national title. The Trojans again will be in the hunt for the national championship, and as an added attraction Leinart likely will be the projected No. 1 NFL draft choice.

2. Reggie Bush (Jr., RB/KR/PR, USC)
Bush is the best athlete on the nation's best team. He is the most versatile player in college football; over the last two years he has produced touchdowns rushing, receiving, returning punts, returning kickoffs and even passing. He accumulated 2,330 all-purpose yards and 15 touchdowns in 2004.

3. Vince Young (Jr., QB, Texas)
Last year's Rose Bowl MVP is 17-2 as a starter and is surrounded by a talented team favored to win the Big 12 championship. Young is often criticized for his poor throwing mechanics (as was Philip Rivers several years ago), but he has the highest completion percentage after two seasos in school history. His 59-percent completion rate ranks ahead of both of his predecessors, Chris Simms and Major Applewhite.

4. Adrian Peterson (Soph., RB, Oklahoma)
In 2004 Peterson finished second in Heisman Trophy balloting, the highest ever for a freshman. He also set an NCAA freshman record with 1,925 yards rushing, averaging 148 yards per game and scoring 15 touchdowns.

5. Gerald Riggs Jr. (Jr., RB, Tennessee)
Last year Riggs rushed for 1,107 yards sharing duties with the departed Cedric Houston, who also rushed for more than 1,000 yards. Riggs will line up behind a veteran offensive line in a run-oriented offense, and Tennessee is favored to win the SEC.

6. Chris Leak (Jr., QB, Florida)
Leak was the leading quarterback in the SEC last season throwing for 3,197 yards and 29 touchdowns. Plus, he will be in charge of new coach Urban Meyer's offense, the one that helped Utah's Alex Smith become the No. 1 selection in this year's draft.

7. Ted Ginn Jr. (Soph., WR/PR, Ohio State)
Ginn returns for his sophomore season as the Big Ten's No. 1 playmaker. He single-handedly beat Michigan last year as a freshman, scoring on a reverse, a punt return and the game-winning reception. He led the nation with a 25.6-yard punt return average and brought four back for touchdowns.

8. Drew Tate (Jr., QB, Iowa)
Tate was named the first-team all-conference quarterback last season after completing 62.5 percent of his passes for 2,786 yards. He also threw 20 touchdown passes. Iowa again is a serious contender for the Big Ten championship.

9. Laurence Maroney (Jr., RB, Minnesota)
Last year Maroney rushed for 1,348 yards (6.2 per carry) and 12 touchdowns for his second straight 1,000-plus yard season. This year he won't have to split duties with Dallas Cowboy draftee Marion Barber III, who netted 1,269 yards in 2004.

10. DeAngelo Williams (Sr., RB, Memphis)
I know I said you have to be on a BCS conference team to win the Heisman, but Williams just might be the best player in all of college football. After rushing for 1,948 yards in 2004 he enters his senior season as the NCAA's active career leader in rushing touchdowns, rushing yards, yards per carry and all-purpose yards.

Terry Bowden is Yahoo! Sports' college football analyst. Send him a question or comment for potential use in a future column.
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Is it just me or does his southern twang ring in your head as you read this...
I think he means Michigan State was beat single handedly by Ginn. The Mich. game was a comprehensive drubbing by the entire squad!
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as much as i would love it, i really dont see teddy ball game winning the heisman this year, voters dont like to give it to sophs, but i think he is going to make a good case for it...
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Personally I just don't want Leinart to win it for obvious reasons...
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Agreed. In order for him to win the Heisman he'd have to light up the numbers at one position. Which I think is kind of dumb because combined yardage from a whole bunch of positions would tell me that a player is truly a gifted athelete, but I guess thats why I'm not a Heisman voter...

Reggie Bush got consideration because he is a superb RB first, and an all-purpose man second. In the end, he still ended up getting beaten by a freshman.
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I thought my seats for the michigan game were good....but I guess i missed TGs reverse and GW TD scores
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I should have listened to the voices in my head when they yelled "IT'S TERRY BOWDEN!!! STOP READING, YOU IDIOT!!!" But they were vetoed because TGII was on the list, and I scrolled down to see what he had to say about him. The civil unrest in my head at the moment is both painful and funny.
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I sure love TGII just like the other Buckeye fan but this comment is pretty retarded considering how great of a game Troy Smith had, and that's just off the top of my head. I'm sure others had wonderful games as well.
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i think its pretty obvious he ment scum lite. and yes, i did hear that annoying twang of his as i read that.

though the thing i find most odd about this article... hes stating his frustration that the heisman doesn't necissarily go to the "best player" in college sports (something i agree with btw). he mentions that its the qb on a winning team, or a tb with great stats, or a game breaker with touches all over the field from various positions are the only ones with a legit shot. and who does he choose?

qbs - 4 - USC and texas are both legit nc contenders. iowa and florida are both argueably darkhorses but it is definitely believeable that they could run the table.
tb's - 4 - (bush not counted) all 4 should post up great stats this season in addition to the impressive ones they have put up thus far.
all purpose - 2 - bush and ginn... duh.

so uhhh... yeah.. way to think outside the box there mr. bowden. way to show those other voters the light.
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Anyone else tired of seeing Gerald Riggs' name on all of these lists? I don't have a problem with the rest of the list, just that dimwit screwing up UM and MSU.
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In other news, scientific studies in Los Angeles have determined that there is not the slightest bit of foul odor emanating from the fecal material of Matt Leinart.
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Old 08-23-2005, 12:52 PM
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Bummer, I thought this thread was about breaking Leinart's kneecaps or something.
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In other news, scientific studies in Los Angeles have determined that there is not the slightest bit of foul odor emanating from the fecal material of Matt Leinart.
You should apply for a job at Fark with a line like that
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I sure love TGII just like the other Buckeye fan but this comment is pretty retarded considering how great of a game Troy Smith had, and that's just off the top of my head. I'm sure others had wonderful games as well.
Terry has sCUM and sCUM-Lite confused methinks.
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Has there ever been a broadcaster who sounded like a bigger fag than this ass clown?
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