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View Poll Results: What Is the Greatest Ever Buckeye Team, Regardless of Record?
1933 (7-1): The Bucks first partial NC, shared with Michigan 0 0%
1942 (9-1): Paul Brown leads the Buckeyes to their first consensus NC 0 0%
1944 (9-0): An undefeated team claims a partial NC, led by Heisman winner Les Horvath 0 0%
1954 (10-0): Woody's first great team, led by Hopalong Cassady, and another consensus NC 0 0%
1957 (9-1): Despite an early loss, Jim Parker helps earn another NC for Woody 0 0%
1961 (8-0-1): Led by Paul Warfield, the Bucks earn a partial NC for Woody 0 0%
1968 (9-0): The Super Sophs run the table, crushing Michigan and USC along the way 6 20.69%
1970 (9-1): Jack Tatum led the best in the land, until the last 15 minutes of the season 0 0%
1973 (10-0-1): This loaded squad (Griffin, Hicks, Gradishar, etc.) were a tie away from a perfect season 7 24.14%
1975 (11-1): Archie's senior season (and second Heisman) ended on a Rose Bowl loss to UCLA 0 0%
1979 (11-1): Led by Art Schlichter, Earle's first campaign falls one point short of another NC 0 0%
1995 (11-2): Eddie's Heisman season was one of the Buckeyes' best - until Michigan came along 0 0%
1998 (11-1): A bizarre loss to Michigan State spoiled a perfect season for Boston, Winfield, and the Big Kat 3 10.34%
2002 (14-0): Redemption, at last! Wilhelm, Doss, Smith and a host of others lead the way! 13 44.83%
Other 0 0%
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osu Bakers Dozen: The Greatest OSU Teams
Here's my list:

1) 1916 7-0 : Chic Harley leads Buckeyes to first ever undefeated and untied season, first conference title, first ever wins over Illinois and Wisconsin.

2) 1942 9-1: Paul Brown's National Title. One of those odd years with no unbeaten teams left at the end of the season.

3) 1954 10-0: Woody would be around for awhile after all.

4) 1957 9-1: The Big 10 was far more competitive during this time than it would become during the 1968-81 era.

5) 1961: 8-0-1: The forgotten season.

6) 1968: 10-0: There's not much to add that hasn't already been said. It doesn't get any better than beating UM 50-14 then winning the Rose Bowl.

7) 1969: 8-1: The tragic conclusion couldn't erase the magnitude of what these guys accomplished.

8) 1973 10-0-1: The best defense in Ohio State history gave up just 64 points all season, including 21 in the final game.

9) 1975 11-1: Another brilliant season with a sour ending.

10) 1979 11-1: Earle brought "Woody's last team" within one point of the National Title.

11) 1996 11-1: Rose Bowl brings redemption.

12) 1998: 11-1: This might have been the most talented Ohio State team ever.

13) 2002 14-0: You know the story.
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I guess it depends on your definition of greatest. In my book, and in the award books, a one loss team doesn't beat an undefeated team that won a title.
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12) 1998: 11-1: This might have been the most talented Ohio State team ever.
My god I still have nightmares about that MSU game.

Cant say I would disagree much with this list.
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I guess it depends on your definition of greatest. In my book, and in the award books, a one loss team doesn't beat an undefeated team that won a title.
Those are in sequential order, not rank order...
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Those are in sequential order, not rank order...
Good, because everyone knows the 68 team was the best

Led by Lancaster native Rex Kern of course
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Well, actually, this was going to be the subject of an upcoming poll.... I'll close this thread until then, and reopen it when the poll is complete.

BTW, you forgot 1970, 1944, and 1933....
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Back open now....

My choice for best ever was 1973 - that team could hold its own against college team ever. If not for a 10-10 tie against Michigan, I doubt that there would be any question that this was the best ever squad. My second choice would be 2002, followed by 1968, then 1998.
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My bad, I didn't realize they were sequential. I think those 90's teams were great, but it's pretty hard for me to look past their records despite the poll.

I never saw the 73 team play, and I'm sure they were one of the greatest, but it seems like a team in 1973 held their own with them. Just razzing ya. Looking forward to watching one of those classic buckeye dvds sometime in the future.
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Let me think...what's my name? That was the first year I had season tickets. It was too bad Corny Greene (broken thumb) couldn't throw the ball in Ann Arbor, and tOSU had no pass completions in the 10-10 game.
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i still have to go with the 98 team. had everything going for it until a wacked out msu game.
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The 1974 team sadly gets lost in the lore of "greatest evers" because of the two losses. That team was dominant beyond comprehension, and a garbage controversial loss at scuMSU cost them their place in the record books. The loss to USC in the Rose Bowl was pretty much a "ho-hum" deal. Last second TD and 2-pointer, who cares, it was like it didn't even matter after they lost to scuMSU. Player for player, I'd say they were at least as good as any team ever fielded here. I'm not gonna say they were the best, I don't have to, somebody already did.

November 9, 1974. After arriving back in Columbus to do his weekly football TV show, Coach Hayes starts by saying, "I can't tell you how bitter I am, this was the greatest team we ever had here."
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im gonna go with the 2002 Buckeye team, we weren't dominant and i know that it says regardless of record, but no one has ever won 14 games in a season, and to me that stands out from the rest
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I voted for '73 also - dominating on both sides of the ball. If only Woody had opened it up in the second half.......

If the '98 team is going to be on here (and it should), then the '69 team should be as well. Blew out everybody all season long...and then the scUM game. But that team was actually more dominating than the '68 or '70 teams.

I would pick:
#2 - '68
#3 - '69
#4 - '02
#5 - '98, '96, '75


I really look at this as 3 dominant 'teams':
68-70
73-75
96-98

I tend to look on each of those 3-year periods as a single 'team'.
the "super-sophs", Archie's team, and the "silver bullets"

One of the greatest things about the 73-75 team was that scUM went 30-2-1 those same 3 years during the regular season, and never went to a bowl game. (it's enough to make you want to cry!) They were 0-2-1 against tOSU and 30-0 against everybody else! (kinda like some of our teams under Cooper)

The 68-70 team was 26-1 during the regular season, 27-2 overall.
The 73-75 team was 30-1-1 reg season, 31-3-1 overall.
The 96-98 team was 31-4 reg season, 33-5 overall.

Looking at individual years, the 73 team was the most dominant in buckeye history...Pts For 413, Pts Allowed 64. (plus had 3 of the top 6 Heisman vote-getters)
Next is the 69 team - PF 383, PA 93
Then the 96 team edges out the 98 team for third place. PF 455, PA 131 vs 98's PF 430, PA 144.
**I used a ratio of PF/PA, not a straight "difference" for this ranking**

Looking at all this, I stand by my pick of 73 being the single greatest one-season team, but the 68-70 'team' as the greatest 'team' as defined above.
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It's tough to argue against 14-0. Plus Eddie and Orlando are about as far back as my memory goes when it comes to the older teams.

Edit: regardless of record hmmmm- '95 and '98 spring to mind, but then again see above for my young memory, I'm bad at following directions.
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98 was easily the most talented team i have ever see at tOSU. but 02... wasn't even the most talented team that season, and yet i can't sit here with a straight face and name a single team that i would guarantee would win over them. i gotta give this one to 02. alot of other teams had more talent, but none had more heart, grit, and desire to win.
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