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Can Tressel & Co. break the bye-week trend?

Jim Tressel is 1-3 at Ohio State after a bye week:

2001: at UCLA - L
2002: Kent State - W
2003: at Wisconsin - L
2004: at Northwestern - L

Now, you could argue that each of these situations are unique - each of the three losses can be attributed to all kinds of different things (Tressel's first season, The Choke :-(, Krenzel's first game back from injury, or inexperienced players replacing 14 NFL draftees.)

There is a common thread here though, and it's disturbing. 1-3 after bye weeks. All three of those losses were road games. The two most recent were night games. Guess what lies ahead in two weeks...

I know Tressel is gonna prepare like crazy, and it'll probably be a tough game. How concerned should we be as fans of this "common thread" though? How big of a factor do you think it will be in two weeks in Happy Valley?
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Old 09-25-2005, 12:18 AM
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Jim Tressel is 1-3 at Ohio State after a bye week:

2001: at UCLA - L
2002: Kent State - W
2003: at Wisconsin - L
2004: at Northwestern - L

Now, you could argue that each of these situations are unique - each of the three losses can be attributed to all kinds of different things (Tressel's first season, The Choke :-(, Krenzel's first game back from injury, or inexperienced players replacing 14 NFL draftees.)

There is a common thread here though, and it's disturbing. 1-3 after bye weeks. All three of those losses were road games. The two most recent were night games. Guess what lies ahead in two weeks...

I know Tressel is gonna prepare like crazy, and it'll probably be a tough game. How concerned should we be as fans of this "common thread" though? How big of a factor do you think it will be in two weeks in Happy Valley?
I and many others have been saying this for quite a while. I for one am very leery of this game not because of PSU but because of all the intangibles. Everything you pointed out above PLUS the fact we always struggle @ Happey Valley.

I'll be happy as hell to get out of there with a 1 point W even though by all rights we should punish them.
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Of the last two post-bye week games, who did we play the week before and how did the team look in that game? I was very pleased with most everything today and think the team showed dramatic improvement from last week. If we had struggled today I would be more concerned about PSU in two weeks. Right now I am just moderately concerned.
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I know Tressel is gonna prepare like crazy, and it'll probably be a tough game. How concerned should we be as fans of this "common thread" though? How big of a factor do you think it will be in two weeks in Happy Valley?
We should be very concerned. Every year except 2002 we have looked rusty, and lethargic after a bye week. If that doesn't change then we will lose to what I think is a very good PSU team. If we come out fired up on D, and the offense comes out and executes then we will be fine. Call me pessimistic, but we don't play particularly strong the the road period, at night, or after a bye week. My V cash will be on PSU, maybe I can jinx them.
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Bye week doesn't bother me because of how strong we looked this week. We have 2 weeks to avoid a hangover from doing so well this week. The team isn't going to lose momentum or confidence, instead they are goign to want to get out there again and kick some more butt. Also...Northwestern is a tough game to get up for, and the Wisconsin game was just a tough game in the rain and it was just our time to lose. The team will get up for Penn State...they will want to prepare, they will be focused. I am glad we have a bye week...I think it helps us. Penn State instead has to focus on Minnesota and can't look past them...they are going to have a rough game next week. GO BUCKS!
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Of the last two post-bye week games, who did we play the week before and how did the team look in that game? I was very pleased with most everything today and think the team showed dramatic improvement from last week. If we had struggled today I would be more concerned about PSU in two weeks. Right now I am just moderately concerned.
2001:
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Akron (OH)
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Columbus, OH
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UCLA
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Los Angeles, CA
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08-24-2002

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45

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Texas Tech
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Pigskin Classic
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09-07-2002

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51

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Kent St. (OH)
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Columbus, OH
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09-27-2003

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20

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Northwestern (IL)
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Columbus, OH
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Wisconsin
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Good point about the lead-in game. The only instance out of the four where Ohio State has led into the bye playing this well was 2002. Then again, that was also the only instance where the bye week follow-up was at the Shoe, and it was against the weakest opponent of the four.
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