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09-27-2005, 01:03 PM
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The refs quit throwing flags in last night's game because they had trown so many already, they would have been risking rotator cuff injuries if they had continued.
there must have been about 30 penalties last night, and like has been said, could have been 30 more called.
On a side note, I wonder if the LSU fans would not have liked a little Tresel-ball last night? Protect your lead and play defense. since they don't rotate as many defensive players as we do, though, they got wore out in the 2nd half.
As for the kickers and their acting jobs - they are mostly all ex-soccer players, so they already have that stuff down pat
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09-27-2005, 01:25 PM
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On a side note, I wonder if the LSU fans would not have liked a little Tresel-ball last night? Protect your lead and play defense. since they don't rotate as many defensive players as we do, though, they got wore out in the 2nd half
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I've got two opposing thoughts on this.
1. How long will it take Les Miles to figure out that he should rotate his D when the on field temp is 105?
2. Did anyone on LSU's D need a breather in the 2nd half if they never bothered to work up a sweat to begin with? Obviously, it's not like anyone in LSU's secondary ever bothered to cover all those wide open Tennessee receivers.
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09-27-2005, 01:34 PM
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Maybe I'm getting older and jaded, but the refs do seem to be pretty pitiful the last few years - and especially this year.
Someone mentioned the call on Ginn's punt return. There was a worse one last night, even though the announcers tried to spin it as a bad call. In the Buckeye game, the blocker at least touched the other guy's back. Last night, a guy basically got flagged for an illegal block in the back for simply being BEHIND another guy. On the replay, you couls see that there wasn't even a block. The "blocker" merely happened to be behind the coverage guy.
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09-27-2005, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Dryden
Rule 7-3-2, (III): On third down near the end of either half, potential field goal holder A4 muffs the snap and A4 or potential kicker A3 recovers the ball and immediately throws it forward to the ground. RULING: Illegal pass, not a valid attempt to conserve time.
Under all the rules concerning the forward pass, the one above most closely covers the situation that happened in the Nebraska/Pitt game. For purposes of rules interpretation, the Nebraska kicker attempted to spike the ball (though 20 yards down field) to stop the clock, which is an illegal pass. It's just a loss of down.
According to the rules (college anyhow), intentional grounding can only be committed specifically by a QB from a conventional offensive formation or any other up-back who receives the snap with intention to pass within 5 yards of the spot of the ball at the line of scrimmage. A FG kicker doesn't meet these criteria, but a FG holder could if he took the snap, approached the line of scrimmage, and then did the same thing on a busted fake.
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The distinction is still that the ball went past the LOS. When spiking the ball to conserve time, the QB is permitted to deliberately ground the ball behind the LOS. Of course, he is not allowed to do that on a "normal" play. That rule simply states that in a FG formation that a spike isn't legal.
On a normal play, a QB is allowed to throw the ball away by throwing to the middle of the field, even if no receivers are present. There are a number of quarterbacks who do this routinely, even when they're not under pressure. 
Risky throw by the kicker, but not grounding.
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09-27-2005, 02:00 PM
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Rule 7-3-2, (III): On third down near the end of either half, potential field goal holder A4 muffs the snap and A4 or potential kicker A3 recovers the ball and immediately throws it forward to the ground. RULING: Illegal pass, not a valid attempt to conserve time.
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What idiot wrote that rule? Shouldn't the same rule apply on 1st and 2nd down also? On 4th down it's a moot point since they'll lose possession on the incompletion.
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09-27-2005, 02:02 PM
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What idiot wrote that rule? Shouldn't the same rule apply on 1st and 2nd down also? On 4th down it's a moot point since they'll lose possession on the incompletion.
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I said the same thing when I watched it live.
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09-27-2005, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by RMosack
Maybe I'm getting older and jaded, but the refs do seem to be pretty pitiful the last few years - and especially this year.
Someone mentioned the call on Ginn's punt return. There was a worse one last night, even though the announcers tried to spin it as a bad call. In the Buckeye game, the blocker at least touched the other guy's back. Last night, a guy basically got flagged for an illegal block in the back for simply being BEHIND another guy. On the replay, you couls see that there wasn't even a block. The "blocker" merely happened to be behind the coverage guy.
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