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05-11-2004, 03:16 PM
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SI Mandel on legal problems
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...05/10/mailbag/
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The recent arrests and indefinite suspensions facing Buckeye players Ira Guilford and Louis Irizarry, as well as numerous other legal troubles surrounding OSU football players, make me wonder -- why can't Ohio State's football program stay out of trouble?
--Billy H., Dublin, Ohio
Too often we forget that these things do not happen in a vacuum. Back in February, when the Gary Barnett pile-on was in full effect, I tried to point out that critics were ignoring the fact that the Colorado campus as a whole is hardly a trouble-free environment (studies showed unusually high binge drinking among all students, not just athletes). Similarly, in trying to figure out why Ohio State's arrest total (15 since 2001) is so high, I tried to find some unusual contributing factors, because I highly doubt the Buckeyes are recruiting significantly worse characters than any other powerhouse.
One that jumps to mind is the fact that Ohio State is one of the only high-profile programs set in a big-city, urban environment. If you've ever been there, you know what I'm talking about. According to FBI statistics from 2001, Columbus has the seventh-highest rate of crime per capita of the 56 biggest cities in the U.S. Is it any coincidence that the football program mirrors that of the larger population? And as AD Andy Geiger pointed out, Buckeye football is the biggest media story in town, unlike USC or Miami, where player crimes can more easily go unnoticed. None of this should be viewed as an excuse for unacceptable behavior, but it may help shed some light on the source of the problem.
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05-11-2004, 03:36 PM
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That's very reasonable, unlike the crap from the PD and some other sources. There was a good piece in some central Ohio paper the other day too, can't remember which.
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05-11-2004, 04:08 PM
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It's nice to see someone in the national media point out what so many of us have been saying all along.
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05-11-2004, 05:09 PM
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That's very reasonable, unlike the crap from the PD and some other sources.
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Actually, the article in Sunday's Plain Dealer was quite thorough and factual. It actually chronicled each arrest and what resulted from the arrest. (That is, some went to trial and were acquitted.) Too many people in this country seem to think that an arrest means guilt and the PD article at least showed otherwise. (Now the columnist Bill Livingston is another story!)
As for some of the other articles I have seen, well they seem to be nothing more than stories from "reporters" acting like sharks in a feeding frenzy. At least this one reporter from SI did some type of investigating. |
05-11-2004, 05:35 PM
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welcome to jail recruits!
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05-11-2004, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by bucknuts44820
every school has kids getting into trouble, here in Columbus everything is magnified 100% due to the Bucks being the most popular thing in the state, no matter who the coach is, the kids will make mistakes from time to time.
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And as AD Andy Geiger pointed out, Buckeye football is the biggest media story in town, unlike USC or Miami, where player crimes can more easily go unnoticed. None of this should be viewed as an excuse for unacceptable behavior, but it may help shed some light on the source of the problem.
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Ironically, I love how Miami fans often try to argue the reverse: how their kids are actually at a higher risk of getting in trouble because they're such a big media outlet and because there's so much to do in Miami. It wouldn't be such a bad argument if it didn't sound like they were already making excuses for the next time they have someone get in trouble
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05-12-2004, 01:28 AM
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someone should do a study to see what percentage of the scholarship athletes (or just football players) get arrested compared to all other 18-23 yr old males in the area.. might be an intresting graphic, doubt there would be much difference.
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05-12-2004, 05:10 AM
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ND had 2 players arrested for getting into a fight at a bar around a month ago as well.  |
05-12-2004, 06:24 AM
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NDC, ive got no problem with ya, but you HAVE TO KNOW that you just asking for it right?
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05-12-2004, 08:56 AM
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how is he asking for it? he said 2 ND players got in a fight. whats the problem there?
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