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Old 05-12-2004, 10:08 PM
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as an incentive to purchase $X of meat, he would do the Icky Shuffle as part of his sales pitch.

I wonder if he spiked a rump roast on anyone's porch...
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Old 05-12-2004, 10:47 PM
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When JT realizes he made a mistake and then acts on it then people get in an uproar about it (see Williams from Austintown), or jsut decides to pass on a player(see Ray Williams). He made the right choice on those ones.
Good points Hubs....
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Old 05-13-2004, 10:06 AM
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LV - I agree. It was Geiger who related the speech to the mugging incident, thereby implying that the speech somehow should have deterred mugging. It is that reference by Geiger that I have trouble with.
I am sure Coach T tells the kids on a weekly basis to make good decisions, now its my opinion that Geiger is merely relaying to the media that coach T is trying to set the right example and do the right things but in this case it didnt make a difference.
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I think our Society is getting way out of hand. Each year it seems to get worse. I live in Florida here in Jacksonville and I know i am an older person now, trying to cope with the things i see today compared to when i was a younger person.

And sure, people will say that i am getting old and i see things in a different light, but beleive me in light of all that, i see things that are getting worse. I think our young people have no idea about trying to be responsible for thier actions and the situations that they seem to create without even giving it a second thought. They say "It's okay - were not bothering anybody"

They are given things like cell phones, playstations, porno cites on the internet at such an early age by the time they are 17 and 18 they are bored with life and there is nothing to look forward to. I have seen and heard this scenario over and over again. And then we say that it all falls back to the parents. And yet there are many young people out there who are good and accept the roles of the responsibility they are to assume without any problems.

I don't know the percentages here, but something has to be done. I hope that Coach Tressel can put a quick end to all of these things that are happening in Columbus. And the city of Youngstown is taking some brunt of this because of where Clarett and Irazarry come from. The inner city of Youngstown is not what it use to be and they do have thier problems. But then again alot of good students are going to YSU and trying to get an education and be proud of thier university and its location. The things that Jim Tressel accomplished at that University is quite an achievment. And on that basis, it is what got him the position at OSU. Now that he supposedly brings his squeaky clean record to Ohio State, every little thing happens to his program will and is being perused with the finest micro-scopes.

So now he has to suffer the consequences of all the incidents that have taken place over the past 3 years. Its not his fault, but according to alot of the local media sport beat writers, they seem to think that he lays to bear the blame. To me its a damn shame that all this is happening and i for one am getting damn tired of it. The blame lays within the parents, the television exposures, and the freedom to do with whatever our society damn well pleases. The record that Tressel had at Youngstown was not without exception. Granted there were some incidents with players at YSU but it was just held to a local newspaper and TV. AFter all it was just Youngstown State......... Now we are talking about Ohio State.... Well that sure is a big difference isnt it.

So like i said before he has to suffer the consequences and ya know what - Jim tressel will see this as a Challenge rather that a consequence and I hope he can be instrumental in solving this very sore issue that we as Ohio State fans have to deal with also. Sorry for being so long with this post but i tried to get it off my chest the best i could without trying to offend anyone. If i have then i am sorry it came across that way. Our young people deserve alot better chances in this life and its not going to be easy. I hope and pray that young parents today start taking a closer look at the issues of the troubled things in our society and try to find a way to explain to thier children the hard times that lay before them if they so desire to go down the wrong fork in the road of life. Life can be good and wholesome, its up to us and the choices we have.
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good post, I agree 100%

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man, Kippy, that was pretty deep...

nice post.
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