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10-17-2005, 03:36 PM
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Well, holding could be called on almost any play. What I think that refs do is determine if it was a) severe enough to impede the defensive player and b) did it significantly affect the play.
I've noticed that holding tends to be called on bigger gains, where the runner or returner clearly was able to get into the open field due to a hold. I've also noticed that holds which occur closer to the ball carrier get called more often than those further away.
Also, open field holds (by WRs, for example) seem to get called more as well.
What I can't explain is why an egregious hold, like a tackle well, tackling a DE and allowing the QB to complete a pass, doesn't get called 100% of the time, as most other penalties are. I can't remember the last time I saw a missed false start, grounding, illegal formation, or to use one more closely related, block in the back. That one gets called virtually every time.
Maybe refs see allowing a little holding as "letting them play". Who knows? Is anyone on here a ref? 
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10-17-2005, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BrutusBobcat
Well, holding could be called on almost any play.
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Sounds like my old high school football coach. I think part of the problem that officials have when working OSU games is that our front seven almost always play good responsibility football and thus most of the sacks come from the outside in or right up the middle. There is usually good containment which means the pocket collapses and turns into a muddled mess, which makes it more difficult to see holding when it happens. I have noticed that a few times. The rest of the time it is just blatantly missing obvious holding, especially on Hawk and Carpenter who tend to use their speed and leverage to out-maneuver blockers. |
10-17-2005, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by wadc45
two weeks in a row for Basanez...meanwhile, Bobby is making a strong push for AA honors.
off-topic, but I saw the same church sign with a pro-ND message before the USC game. someone must be good with photoshop...
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Off Topic - http://www.churchsigngenerator.com - You can make signs similar to that if anyone is interested |
10-17-2005, 05:42 PM
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Buckeyes still #1 with me!
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I'm telling you that the answer is easier tear-away jerseys. Let 'em change five or six times a game, who cares? See a TSUN lineman holding jersey in his hand and you have yourself a guilty bastard ready to walk back for the penalty!  |
10-17-2005, 05:50 PM
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I can't remember the last time I saw a missed false start, grounding, illegal formation,
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I can, a MSU player jumped, our DE pointed, the MSU player jumped again and then the ball was snapped and it was never called 
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10-17-2005, 05:58 PM
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I don't know if you seen during the game against MSU when Bobby's undershirt that was coming out from his jersey was actually ripped and he was showing it to the officials showing them how they were holding.
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Evidently Ratboy18 did, seeing as pointed out that very same thing in the post right above yours...
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11-07-2005, 12:58 PM
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Russel b10 pow
seems like the most logical place to put this to me. dont really think it goes in buckeye forum
http://dispatch.com/sports-story.php...=146157&chck=t
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College football
Walnut Ridge product honored by Big Ten
Dispatch.com
Monday, November 7, 2005 10:07 AM
Former Walnut Ridge standout Gary Russell has been named offensive player of the week by the Big Ten conference.
Russell, a sophomore running back for Minnesota, rushed 28 times for 188 yards and three touchdowns -- all career highs -- in the Golden Gophers' 42-21 victory at Indiana. With the victory, Minnesota became bowl-eligible for the fourth straight season.
The Gophers trailed 14-7 at halftime when Russell made his presence felt. He ran for 98 yards and two TDs in the third quarter to help his team take a 34-14 lead. In the fourth quarter, Russell added a two-point conversion pass to tight end Matt Spaeth.
Russell ranks second on the team and fifth in the conference with an average of 98 rushing yards a game. He posted his fourth 100-yard rushing game this season. Russell leads Minnesota and ranks third in the league with 15 rushing touchdowns, two shy of the school's single-season record of 17 by Marion Barber III in 2003.
Other conference honorees this week are Penn State's Tamba Hali (defense) and Northwestern's Joel Howells (special teams).
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11-07-2005, 01:00 PM
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The Spartans!!
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