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Old 05-16-2004, 04:35 AM
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The main problem with the BCS is they need to realize that it is impossible to make sure the "best" team is included when only 2 teams get to play for the title. Since most teams under consideration don't play each other, and don't play the same competition, the best solution is probably to take the most deserving teams. Personally I think the current system does this pretty well.

If the formula is tweaked, they should

1. Force all of the computer polls to use the BCS SOS calculation. Currently teams are often penalized for their SOS in some of the computer polls and again in the master BCS calculation.

2. Add a 1 or 2 more computer polls and throw out the top rating in addition to the low poll.

I'm not a fan of using MOV. I understand the thinking, but you are changing the goal of the game. The object is to win the game, not to win it by X points or more.

I think any changes they implement will make it tougher for OSU to get to the title game. Our biggest strengths are usually SOS, and computer polls. Removing or de-emphasizing these will benefit teams from weaker conferences and teams with more emphasis on offense.


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Old 05-18-2004, 09:19 PM
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Strength of Schedule should be a part of the formula, if nothing more than a small portion. The truth is that is how LSU beat USC into the National Championship which I feel was the best thing that could have happened if OU had to be there.

I think it is a bad idea to take that out of the equation. Now there is not incentive to schedule a Texas, Miami, or whatever. We are better off beating up on Kent St. Akron and OU.
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I LOVE the constant BCS modifications. Let's review.


1. The media and Coaches often split regarding who is the NC.
2. The BCS is brought in to use media polls, computer polls, SOS, etc. to select the best two teams to play for the NC.
3. The media complain that the BCS doesn't pick the team they want.
4. The BCS is 'tweaked'--to the point where it is now essentially just an average of the two polls.

I know I'm oversimplifying, but I nearly died this past year when USC claimed to be the NC. Everybody sets up a system to remove split NC's, then ignores it when it WORKED PERFECTLY--weighing the relative merits of two one-loss teams, and selecting the one that's had the more solid season OVERALL to play for the NC. A team that lost to Cal, but played a strong season otherwise does not, IMO, deserve to be selected ahead of a team that played a dominant season, but lost to a solid K-State team in the conf. Champ game--a hurdle that SC did not have to clear.


All ranting aside. go ahead and change the BCS--but PLEASE stand by the system you all agreed to use. IF you want to ignore it, then let's come up with something better, but while the BCS is still in force, accept it and its results. To do otherwise is to tell everybody that you still have some growing up to do.

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It did what it was supposed to do.

Very true. I've thought this same thing for some time.
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Old 05-27-2004, 03:15 AM
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What was the rationale for removing strength of schedule? Because it kept USC out of the title game last year?....or that it is already included in the computer polls?

Gotta agree w/ VprHis...what is the point of the BCS when they keep changing it because it doesn't match the human polls. Seems like what they are really shooting for is to get this thing to agree with the AP & ESPN polls.
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