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I think had Woody stayed, he would have ended up having a stroke or major heart attack and becomming unable to coach.
I hated the way his firing was handled, but I would have hated to see him go disabled as well.
I am happy Tressel is here now, but don't believe he will become the legend/icon that Woody is.
Woody, well, was Woody, they broke the mold when they made him.
RIP W.W. "Woody" Hayes.
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05-17-2004, 01:52 PM
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moron75: The chokes were referring to the Rose Bowl (Stanford, UCLA, USC in 79) and to scUM in 69
Since when is 1969 the "early 70s"? Also, it has been documented by several former players that the '71 Rose Bowl loss to Stanford was more due to apathy by OSU players than their choking, because according to them Woody had reneged on promises of free time prior to the bowl game. And as pointed out above, Woody wasn't even coaching in 1979. The only game you mentioned that could be considered a choke was the 1976 Rose Bowl loss to UCLA, the same team OSU had pounded 41-20, at UCLA, at the beginning of the season. Don't snort ether before posting...
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Also, it has been documented by several former players that the '71 Rose Bowl loss to Stanford was more due to apathy by OSU players than their choking, because according to them Woody had reneged on promises of free time prior to the bowl game
Whatever. that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. You lose when you're supposed to win, you've choked.
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05-17-2004, 02:40 PM
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Whatever. that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. You lose when you're supposed to win, you've choked.
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Tibor, I suppose you DON'T believe that Ohio State won the Fiesta Bowl and a National Championship in 2002-2003 (13 point underdogs). I guess in your view, Miami "choked" that games away and OSU didn't really win anything.  Now who's saying dumb things?
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I am happy Tressel is here now, but don't believe he will become the legend/icon that Woody is.
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Yeah, that would be awfully hard to do. I don't think that you'll see much of that happening in CFB anymore, because coaches don't seem to stick around as long as they used to. Too many of them are looking ahead to the NFL or a bigger CFB program.
However, I don't think that JT is that kind of guy. I believe that he would stay at OSU as long as he can; he really loves OSU, and this seems to be the "big job" for him. In addition, he appears to have the attitude, desire and skills to keep his job for a long time. I think that the next two years will tell us a lot about Tressel's abilities while re-loading after a successful couple of years.
I'd love to see him be successful enough to achieve that status, though..... |
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I agree completely...most of the guys at the big schools (Miami especially) all seem to want to head to the pros, but Tressel seems like one of the "old school" coaches (Paterno, Knight, etc.) in the sense that he seems to have no desire to take that step, so this could be the job he wants to keep for as long as he can, which I think is good for us in the long run.
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Whatever. that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. You lose when you're supposed to win, you've choked.
Wrongo, Rashimish. You have to "fail" to win when you should to qualify as a "choke". When to play with less than full effort because you're pissed at the coach, that's not a choke.
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