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05-15-2004, 06:56 PM
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Would Woody have had the sense to step away at the right time?
Or would have have lasted far too long a la SenilePa to the point where the program and his persona became a living joke? I was too young to follow the end of Woody's run but it seems that there were rumblings that Woody had lost it. The Rose Bowl and scUM chokes in the early 70s and the mediocrity (by OSU standards) of the late 70s. Would Woody have stepped down when he realized he didn't have it anymore? Or would he have cast OSU into the hell that is now engulfing PSU? |
05-15-2004, 06:58 PM
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he DID stay too long, by his own admission...
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05-15-2004, 07:17 PM
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Agree with LV...I've read many times where Woody stated he should have stepped down earlier
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05-15-2004, 08:13 PM
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I too have read what LV and Grad stated, but I don't think that really answers the question. Once Woody was forced away from the game, he could then see that he stayed too long (by his own admission). But if he hadn't been forced away, he wouldn't have necessarily seen that. I don't know if Woody would have had the epiphany that he should leave. Now if he had a 10 year stretch with a record against scUM like Cooper did, that may have been eye-opening to him.
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05-15-2004, 08:16 PM
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Now if he had a 10 year stretch with a record against scUM like Cooper did, that may have been eye-opening to him.
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Prof, if Woody lost to scUM like Cooper he would have killed someone...probably himself<!-- / message -->
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05-15-2004, 09:40 PM
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If Woody waited too long, it didn't show in the win-loss record. Yeah, 78 wasn't so hot, and he did lose 3 straight to scum, but 76 and 77 both had B10 championships and major bowl appearences.
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05-16-2004, 03:30 PM
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I know first hand that the old man, wanted another NC very badly. I think if we had beaten UCLA in the 76 Rose, things Wood of ended alot different for Coach Hayes. He was a great man, in many ways, but his zeal for winning, and not being able to deal with his losses, eventually cost him a part of his spectacular reputation. To ans. the question? Well.. all in all, given the way things worked out, I Wood have to say, yes he did stay too long. Each big loss from 69 thru 76 really chaped his ass. From SCum 69 to Standford 71, to mSu 74, and UCLA 76.....These are the games that really started the pot boiling. Mainly because these are all games we should of won. I can remember my dad coming home from 76 spring practice (almost every day) saying things like......"Wow that Rose bowl loss really killed the old man, he is going to blow" all of the assistants at that time felt the same way. My dad left OSU after that year to coach with the Patriots, as did other assistants, that were with Woddy for a few years. Most left because of promotions, but they were also scared to coach with Woddy for muCH longer. The 76 season was a turbulant one. In retrospect, that Wood of been the best time for him to retire, right after the 27-10 Orange Bowl win over Colorado, but his zeal for BEATINGum just one more time, and winning the NC (along comes Schleister) gave the fierce competitor one last glimpse of hope, and finally overcame his lust for competetion.
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05-16-2004, 05:22 PM
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